15 Minutes of Fame: Members only
15 Minutes of Fame is WoW.com's look at World of Warcraft players of all shapes and sizes -- from the renowned to the relatively anonymous, the remarkable to the player next door. Tip us off to players you'd like to hear more about.As Blizzard re-imagines old Azeroth, sweeps tired systems out the door and injects new ways for players to connect and work together, we can't imagine why anyone would not want to take advantage of what this top-notch MMO and company have to offer. There are players, however, who choose a different path. These players game on private servers, where conditions range from near-original mirrors to god-mode gameplay with super-GM abilities.
We don't condone private server play, which is clearly against Blizzard's Terms of Service and EULA. Still, there are plenty of players who believe differently, and we were curious why they've chosen the private server route. We visited with a player who plays on a relatively tame private server featuring near-"normal" game play. What can he do that we can't? And what do we have that he doesn't?
Main character Laughoutloud, level 80 Mage (Arcane, Frost)
Realm N/A
15 Minutes of Fame: What is playing on a private server all about? What makes it interesting for you?
Laughoutloud: It's the same reason as people playing on retail: the fun of the game. The fact that the (XP) rates are a little bit higher makes it easier to get to level 80, but at the same time, it isn't so high such that you miss the roleplaying factor of the game. I play on a server that is Blizz-like, meaning no custom mobs or custom quests; everything is supposed to be like retail, except with a 3x boost in experience points.

Well, since I play on a Blizz-like server, there isn't much of a difference except for the experience rates being different. Also, there is a custom teleporter to take you to different home cities instead of taking the zeppelin or the ship, which is a lot easier. There are also custom events that the GMs of the server would host from time to time. It can be PvP- or PvE-related, with in-game rewards. The rewards usually are one or two emblems or some arena points.
Do you have to pay to play on your private server?
No.
How long have you been on a private server?
About 8 months.
Do you also play WoW on a regular server?
No, not any more. I used to, for a little bit.
How does the play experience compare – more or fewer players, bugs, customer support, and so on?
I don't know how the people get the code from and etc. to run WoW servers, but it's obviously not from Blizzard, so the quality of a couple of programmers can't beat that of the team of Blizzard. Thus, there are more bugs, less players per realm. However, customer support is probably more than Blizzard, since you can actually talk to the GMs real-time by IRC.
Blizzard looks at playing on and even connecting to a private server as violations of their Terms of Service and EULA. How does that affect your feelings about where you play?
It doesn't really affect me much, because if they really strongly enforced their Terms of Services and EULA, there wouldn't be so many private servers out there. I believe a lot of the private servers' server hosts are in U.S., so it shouldn't be that hard to track and close if they really wanted to. It's not like BitTorrent, where most of the website servers are located outside of U.S. It really could be part of their business strategy to intentionally allow small private servers to run. It's just like books, movies, or in some other companies where "leakage of information" happens -- but it's really done intentionally.
If eventually they really crack down on private servers and close them down, I'm fine with that too, as it's their right to do so. Will I go back on retail? Probably not, because of time and money issues.
When you say your server offers a 3x XP boost, is that over current XP levels or the original leveling speed when WoW first launched?
I'm not too sure, but I think it's the current XP level and not the beta or original XP level when the game first launched.
What about all the features Blizzard has added to accelerate leveling speed and ease for players? Do those make you more likely to go back to a Blizzard server?
You mean if Blizzard increases the exp gained and make everything 3x rate as well? If so, I won't go back. My reason is not because leveling on retail is too slow, it's because of the time and money that needs to be put into the game. When I pay for something, I feel the pressure to need to play to get my money well spent. I also don't really work either, so paying the monthly fee just seems like something I can save. I am a full-time student, so playing on private server allows me to stop playing when I need to focus on school without "losing" my money paid.

Around 200ish.
Is it hard to find enough people your level to get a group?
Yeah, it is -- when I started to play, anyway. There are more people than before when I started, so I'm not too sure. At 80, it's not too hard to find a raid group.
Do you play mostly on your own, with a small group of friends, with a guild, or in pickup groups?
I play with a small group of friends; also, pickup groups.
Do you belong to a guild? Are there many guilds on your server?
Yes, I belong to a guild created by me and my friends. There aren't many guilds on the server -- probably about four to five noticeable ones in each faction, with a bunch of random ones that aren't very populated.
What type of content are you playing now?
I am playing the Lich King right now, but patch 3.1.3. We do raids.
When WoW gets a patch, do you get it at the same time, or do you have to wait?
Nope, we usually have to wait for whoever is doing the main code for private server WoW to release something. I am not sure what group does that, though -- but I know it's not the people running the private server I'm on.
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Reader Comments (Page 8 of 8)
usagizero Aug 25th 2009 5:12PM
So instead of breaking the law, he broke the law in a different way?
impurezero Aug 25th 2009 5:36PM
Look, I don't want to sound like a douche, because I certainly have sympathy for this sad story in general. But, life is full of choices, even in the hard times. Warcraft is hardly a neccesity of life. If it made things a little easier for you and your brother, I'm happy for you, but that doesn't automatically make it "right."
Every month I send money to a family in Asia so that they can pay to feed their 3 year old child. Stuff like that makes it hard for me to reason that your Warcraft fix was something that you couldn't have lived without.
The past is the past. Like I said, I'm happy that it gave you some release, and I'm definitely happy you now play retail to help support those developers who brought you those enjoyable times. On a case by case basis, your story is certainly lacking the selfishness of those who just don't feel like paying for it (the real degenerate thieves). My only point is that you have choices in life, and while you didn't mean any harm, it certainly doesn't make what you did 100% "right."
Again, I hope I'm not coming across as a jerk. I'm sorry for your loss, and hope things are wonderful for you both now and in the future.
Bill Aug 25th 2009 5:47PM
Totally agree with impurezero. It's a good story, but it's still wrong. And it's not exactly like Jean Valjean stealing to eat or something. There are a whole lot of affordable and perfectly legal alternatives to playing WoW.
Lemons Aug 25th 2009 4:04PM
This article should be renamed: "Thrifty man plays shotty knock off of WoW to avoid small fee"
Nossy Aug 25th 2009 4:46PM
So what? If you cant afford a filet mignon, do you go out and steal it from the store? The right thing to do is settle for a top sirloin instead. SETTLE for Guild Wars or something if you can't afford WOW.
I think Blizz would be more adamant about private servers if they didnt have 11+ million paying subscribers.
Kind of silly. Some folks pay just as much per month just to be able to text message and send photos from their iPhone.
ShadowEric Aug 25th 2009 5:01PM
Oh why argue so much?
It's easy. If you don't pay for the subscription, you're stealing a service. It's plain and simple. Buying the game in the store is only part of the product. The service requires a second payment: your subscription.
Do we need to care that much about legal implications? Not really. It's those who run the servers who have something to worry about. The arguments in these posts are rather pointless. What's the big deal? Anyone with half a brain should have realized it's stealing. If it becomes a huge problem, Blizzard will find them anyway...
As to having a blog post on this, why not? It's relevant to WoW. Again, what's the big deal? And yeah this is a blog, not a news site. They might be paid, but they're not journalists. If anything, there wouldn't be so many grammatical and spelling mistakes in these posts, if they were journalists. Typos are one thing and do happen, I've seen far worse on here.
Bottom line... a lot of arguing over nothing. Some people found out how to play for free and you all argue over it. They're not paying guys, it's stealing. It's not rocket science and there's nothing to argue... Just enjoy the post for what it is: something WoW-related.
usagizero Aug 25th 2009 5:07PM
People who complain about the fee for WoW make me laugh. It's practically nothing, even less when you consider how much time/value you get for your money. Honestly, if you can't fork over the $15 or so a month, you need to really think about your life and get a job or just not play. I easily spend that on a non-fast food restaurant, and the food is gone afterwards.
Funny fact, i knew someone who played on a private server, then went to play his paid account, was hacked, and complained. Yep, wonder how that happened. /sarcasm
Something i do wish though, although never going to happen. Something like Diablo or Hellgate where they have a single player version too. I've seen too many MMOs who shut down, and any software you have is now useless. Not thinking that WoW is going anywhere soon, but it would be a nice option, more so when the game goes away.
Kind of disappointed in WoW.com here though, it's one thing to do a "report" on private servers, but this is "fame" article. Would have been better to have several "sides" and more facts about private servers, other than just celebrating this guy for being cheep.
impurezero Aug 25th 2009 5:33PM
Look, I don't want to sound like a douche, because I certainly have sympathy for this sad story in general. But, life is full of choices, even in the hard times. Warcraft is hardly a neccesity of life. If it made things a little easier for you and your brother, I'm happy for you, but that doesn't automatically make it "right."
Every month I send money to a family in Asia so that they can pay to feed their 3 year old child. Stuff like that makes it hard for me to reason that your Warcraft fix was something that you couldn't have lived without.
The past is the past. Like I said, I'm happy that it gave you some release, and I'm definitely happy you now play retail to help support those developers who brought you those enjoyable times. On a case by case basis, your story is certainly lacking the selfishness of those who just don't feel like paying for it. My only point is that you have choices in life, and while you didn't mean any harm, it certainly doesn't make what you did 100% "right."
Again, I hope I'm not coming across as a jerk. I'm sorry for your loss, and hope things are wonderful for you both now and in the future.
impurezero Aug 25th 2009 5:40PM
Argh, this comment system is buggy. I'm going to repost this reply where it belongs. Feel free to downrate this double post version.
JKWood Aug 25th 2009 7:09PM
I'll go ahead and throw this out there - I played on a private server or two, while scraping money together for my retail account. Somewhere along the way, my retail account got hacked... and I'm pretty sure the two are related. I'd love to see WoW.com do a feature on someone who doesn't have such a positive view of private servers, to balance things out.
kombajnotron Aug 25th 2009 9:42PM
Hehe me and my friend are playing on retail for around 4 years allready and recently a friend of ours started playing on a private server so we made an account there and ganked the shit out of him (but ofc didn't tell him) we ganked him for like 3 hours straight and logged back in when he decided to log and gank him some more... we were doing it for like 3-4 days and than he decided to play on retail :D PS: whatever this thread sounds like to u let me assure u that private servers are crap. There's lag, tons of bugs, hackers and all that kind of shit (and i'm talking about blizzlike servers here since that's where he was playing). If someone tells u that these servers are as good or maybe even better and he says he's palyed on retail it's because he's only played on retail to like lvl 30 or something and hasn't yet experienced most of the game anyway... and even if he's gotten 30 lvls he's still probably lying... make that 4 lvls...
Oteo Aug 25th 2009 10:07PM
Private servers really suck. I played on them for a long time before I actually could afford WoW and the subscription, and whoo, the difference was amazing.
Sure, on private servers your exp will be multiplied and you might get things like custom-stat armor, or teleporters to different cities... But wait! You'll also get these great features:
Mobs that don't cast spells!
Raid bosses with no abilities, but with vastly larger healthpools to compensate that literally took 30 minutes to down!
Quests that only work if they're of the "kill 10 spiders" or "bring me his head" variety!
Rampant overinflation that puts official servers to shame!
Severely overpopulated or underpopulated realms!
Talents, items, idols, relics, spells and abilities that don't work at all!
Updates 2-5 months behind server time!
Flavorless NPCs that do nothing but stand around!
I think you get my drift. If it weren't for private servers piquing my interest in WoW, I probably never would have actually bought the game. But after years of playing shitty F2P games and WoW private servers, when I actually bought WoW I was blown away by how well-made the game was compared to what I'd been playing.
Wulftracker Aug 25th 2009 11:30PM
I played on Private servers for 2 1/2 years , the variety is vast but most Suck eggs, due to 80% of pvper's on private servers are populated by banned blizz players.
The only benefit of playing on the private servers was the sense of community Gm's policing the system that Retail does not have.
Due to the user base being so small Blizzlike servers have a really tight community. You know everyone as they all HAVE to use the forums on a regular basis. Also most allow crossfaction grouping to compensate for lack of players and more of a sense of community.
As far as policing the system, spammers and beggars get the boot, there is basically a 3 strikes system in place, except for hackers who get banned for life immediately. A quest messes up or your toon has a problem, a Gm will be with you in about 15 mins max.
BUT.. I'd never ever go back to a private server after having played full retail, it all works well Retail". Scripting of NPC's and Bosses is practically nil. Simple example The quest to follow the defias traitor in westfall.. Accept the quest.. he dissapears or just stand s there, about 5 mins of standing with him and you've finished the quest. OR you contact a gm to get him to flag it complete for you.
Hell I didn't even know murlocs could throw nets, Wendigos had that fog breath, or that Chimera's has that frost breath attack. They don't on most Private servers. Privates everytime they patch may be off for a week fixing problems.
The person interviewed mentioned the wait between patches.. That because you have 4 or 5 small groups of 2-3 people reverse engineering a Wow server based on the data files in the updated client. I mean it took 2 years before magisters terrace was even available on most servers, as a matter of fact on one it was the week the first patch for BC players got barbershops( forget the number of the patch).
Private servers were a good training ground to gain patience for patch/maintenance days, and it got me experience playing both factions pretty decently so when joined retail I wasn't a total babyfaced noobcake. But OMG the differences alone besides being the right thing to do, are worth the subscription fee. Just didnt have it before, not that I was flaunting i could go on private and not pay.
I saw folks talking about cell phone bills in comparison.. Like WoW not a requirement of anyone except maybe a doctor or someone on call, So I personally have never wasted my money on one, even now when i can afford one. But WoW is worth the money compared to going on private.
Baruti Aug 26th 2009 6:43AM
I used to play Lineage 2 on private long ago! (As in, the first and second chronicle).
Totally messed that game up for me!!
Everything so easy... I promised myself to never even try WoW-Private Server and I haven't...
I enjoy my subscribtion on live-realms!
Most annoying on private-servers (from experience on L2-Servers) is the severe lack of players! (Running for hours without a single player in sight unless you are in a major city)
I'm staying on my beloved Blizzard-hosted server! ^_^
Chris Williams Aug 26th 2009 10:29AM
I would love to find a pvt server running vanilla wow. The original game. Back before all the class balancing and other tweaks. Sure I like wow the way it is today, but it would be fun to go back and play the original game too once in a while
RTK_Player Sep 2nd 2009 6:05PM
I have to say that all the posters saying "lvl 80 and free epix, how lame this sux" are somewhat misinformed. Granted, the vast, vast, majority of private servers out there live up to that reputation. Free level 80s and gear vendors are common. Many don't even contain any mobs at all beyond gear vendors. But as an actual player from this private server, rtkgaming, I have to say that these comments are bull**** (Sorry, Im not entirely sure about profanity rules here).
While I by no means expect the people who are railing on private servers about such things to actually play our server and see what you might find, for anybody who was vaguely intrigued by the concept of Blizzardlike server, read this. You might actually find something you like.
We have fully scripted instances.
Believe it or not, we do. Actually, fully isn't entirely true. There are some minor bugs, and a few bosses in BC raids are bugged, but even Ulduar works as intended, and packs the same brutal punch in the chest for inexperienced guilds.
Instant 80? Free gear?
We don't buy into that crap. We have two servers, one with 5x normal WoW rates, and one with x30 (May I personally vouch for the 5x one? 30x is admittedly stupid) And we have no "custom vendors" as the terminology goes, to sell you epic items. (Again, the 30x server has a "mall" with prof mats, but as I said, this is about our 5x server.) I truly think that 3x is the perfect amount of time to experience leveling up, but not in a brutal grinding way to dissuade secondary characters. It takes about 2-4 weeks to level to 80, depending on how fanatically you play.
No players? No pvp?
Once again, this is stereotypical and not entirely true. While we can't stick anything to retail here, we have a player base strong enough to support the game. LaughOutLoud was slightly off here, you can expect upwards of 300 players on at a time occasionally. (The average I've found is 200-250, of which maybe half are level 80) We also have full pvp working. All battlegrounds (minus wintergrasp, sorry) and arena, both are constantly played at 80. (Warsong Gulch is no doubt the most common though)
Illegal?
I'm not going to touch on copyright issues here, as I can tell it sparks a fierce debate. All I will say though, is that I legitimately obtained WoW client through blizzards upload on their website, nothing illegal about the way I obtained my copy. (As to the EULA people, I am truly impressed that you are so committed to something that you most likely just clicked the "I don't care, let me just play my game" button on)
Like I said at the beginning, if you are actually interested in wow.com's article here about a surprisingly thriving WoW subculture, check us out at rtkgaming.com
And laughoutloud, if you happen to read this I'm Aleyth.