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8-31-2009 @ 9:27AM
Suddenly Cromie swoops in, throws in a bunch of goblins and worgens through a time portal and claps her hand. “There! One of the few (fill in blank) to awaken as DK...etc etc.”
8-31-2009 @ 9:53AM
First, Chromie doesn’t have to do anything. There is nothing to suggest that the goblins who are/were/will be raised as deathknights are from Kezan at all. They simply could be deathknights seeking refuge, and choose to do so with the Horde when they learn of Thrall and Co. welcoming goblins in their ranks. Hell, there are goblins in Icecrown now at the Argent Tournament grounds. Are you implying that NONE of them might have fallen at the hands of an attack. The Lich king is unlikely to allow such a bastion of defiance to remain in Icecrown without at least attempting to attack it at strategic moments.Second, rinse and repeat for worgen. Even if they are the Silverpine worgen who die at the hands of the scourge and/or hordies questing there, nothing prevents the strongest, whom Arthas would hope to make his coveted deathknights, from breaking free and seeking new allies within the Alliance. The fact that both races are already natural inhabitants of Azeroth, and have been since Arthas has been terrorizing both factions means deathknights aren’t unexplainable. Much more explainable than the Dreanei who have become deathknights, and few people have cried foul when seeking that 1% hit chance.Third, for all the concern about deathknights, wouldn’t the same concerns lie with the Forsaken as well? An entire race of people whose very existence is a result of the Lich Kings power, whether they have been able to break free of his control or not, should create serious questions, especially when part of the Forsaken issue has always been the inability to find true peace like their beloved Sylvannus. The reward for downing the Lich King should be the ability to die and let your soul find rest am I right? I don’t see many people asking how this might impact lore, and my guess is it would be very similar with DKs since they are essentially the crème de la crème of those whose lives have been lost at the hands of the Lich King.
8-31-2009 @ 2:20PM
You're forgetting that in the trailer, we're still distracted by the Lich King when Deathwing strikes. You're forgetting that even if we're not playing them, Worgen and Goblin heroes are still dying, still being resurrected by the Lich King to fight for him/turn against him, even if we don't see them. In 4.0, you'll get to play that badass Worgen DK with the full T12, and everyone will prostrate themselves in awe :)
8-31-2009 @ 4:31PM
I agree with you on goblins, as they have been natural residents of Azeroth for ages and there is no argument that some would not have fallen prey to the Lich King. I find worgen to be a bit of a stretch, however. From my understanding, the playable worgen will be residents of Gilneas who break free of the curse, hence their affiliation with the Alliance. Random feral silverpine worgen will never go through the curse-breaking procedure, so I'm not sure I see a Lore reason for them to go through DK starting quests. The DK starting area is the problem with Worgen DKs, as the battle to be free of Arthas' influence at LHC occurs prior to the breaking of the curse in Gilneas, which results in Alliance worgen. I don't see a good way to resolve that Lore conflict.The only somewhat backdoor approach out of this Lore conflict is to have worgen and goblin scourge show up prior to Cataclysm. Hence, no reason to doubt there would be worgen DKs, though this does not explain why they would side with the Alliance.If Arthas wants worgen deathknights, why doesn't he have any thus far?
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