This is patently false. Almost all pugs can do this with 3 healers and the fight is incredibly easy. Join a vent, spread out, and listen to the leader when he calls out when someone has a kobold and you will clear phase 1 easily. In phase 2, put all your dps on acidmaw and if you get poisoned (as shown by turning completely green) run to the fire tank. As for the last boss he is super easy and all you have to do is run out of the way when you have a 100%+ speed boost for his random charges.

The only way you won't be able to clear the timer with 3 healers is if your dumbass dps each does 1000 to 1500 dps. In that case they should either go learn how to play or do some damn heroics or nax10 first (content which they have probably not done anyways).

You only need 2000+ dps going with 3 healers. If you spend any time reading on your class at all you can do this in blues. If you get nax 10/25 gear you can easily do 4k+ for most dps classes.

If you group with bad people and are unable to recognize it you are probably a bad player yourself.

@ Diogenes. I agree with you, normal 10man ToC is a breeze, our social guild had 1-shot the new bosses each week. However hink Tferr is referring to the heroic 10man ToC which I am yet to attempt with my guild.

This post ( and this comment too ) is about trial of the GRAND crusader. Or Heroic version if you didn't know the exact name. Everyone needs to pull at least 4k dps or you'll get the second boss before the first one is down.

We also tried it on 10 man, best was bringing the worms to ~200k hp. So, yeah, I'd say it's challanging enough, although pretty buggy.

You need 3 healers for 10-man ToGC, period. Even if you are able to heal through the beasts with just two healers (somehow), you'd stop at Twin Valkyrs - raid damage is insane there. As for enrage timer - just bring better geared damage dealers. If nobody dies (and those 3 healers will ensure that), and if damage dealers do a good job, you'll kill Icehowl before the enrage timer hits. For us, he enraged when he was at 1%, so we were able to kill him while he was enraged.