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9-07-2009 @ 11:15PM
Would you stop pimping other MMO's so much? Jeez just put up more ads for it already and stop pretending all the references to it are anything but paid advertising.And why would I spend $65+ USD to play another MMO while WoW is down for a few hours? Protip: MMO players rarely play two subscription games at the same time. If you are going to push other games at least be sensible and push games that aren't MMO's. WoW.com's readership (WoW fans, tending towards the newer and more casual spectrum) isn't the same as Massively's (fickle fickle veteran MMO players).
9-07-2009 @ 11:25PM
Fact: WoW(Insider) is run by GameDaily with a focus on World Of Warcraft.Fact: Massively is run by GameDaily with a focus on MMOs as a whole.Abstraction 1: It is probably a corporate "suggestion" that you should be playing one of these "New MMOs that are neat" if you're not playing WoW.Abstraction 2: There may be a significant crossover from WoW Mainstream to Comic book Heroes Abstraction 3: If you do not like the content of this site there are plenty of other WoW News and Analysis sites out there that are of similar quality.
9-07-2009 @ 11:24PM
Hahaha.We do not get paid by any of these games. Do you honestly thing that we're taking money on the side from them? Get out your tinfoil hat.And you don't speak for everyone. Our data indicates our audience is interested in other games, especially with how the relate to WoW. But of course, this is the internet and only your opinion matters.http://xkcd.com/386/
9-07-2009 @ 11:28PM
Minor point, we're not part of Game Daily, although they do take care of the profile side of the site. We're part of the Joystiq network, which is ran by Weblogs and AOL. Although in the end all our paychecks come from the same place anyways.And more to the point, we're not really obliged to cross cover sites. There's no mandate or anything. When we see something that works on WoW.com, we'll mention it.
9-07-2009 @ 11:30PM
rawr! tiger claw!
9-07-2009 @ 11:35PM
xkcd 386 is the perfect answer to ANYTHING.(Almost.)
9-07-2009 @ 11:37PM
Why would I need my tinfoil hat? You run advertising, you are owned by a gaming media company. When I see multiple mentions of how awesome Champions Online is it is fairly reasonable to concur that you are doing paid advertising. When I notice a lot of Dell or Apple laptops in a movie it isn't a conspiracy theory to guess that paid product placement is the reason the camera is doing a nice lingering shot on the logo.And saying "Champions Online is pretty cool, check it out" does not in any way relate it to WoW. And sorry but all the stats I have ever seen say that MMO players most play one MMO. They might play other games but they are serial monogamists when it comes to MMO's.
"Protip: MMO players rarely play two subscription games at the same time. "I suppose you're right, 2 is an awfully small number. I play 5, it was 6 but DDO is going free, and free realms is a mindless distraction every few weeks.Though honestly I doubt I will stay with Aion, but SWTOR, STO, and WOD will cover the comings and goings for at least the next couple years.Protip: Never assume you are representative of the MMO fanbase as a whole. You are only representative of you.
9-07-2009 @ 11:40PM
@ jadeCan you read? I said "rarely". There have been surveys done and they show the vast majority of MMO players play one MMO at a time. I didn't say no one ever played multiple MMO's.
9-08-2009 @ 12:29AM
"I suppose you're right, 2 is an awfully small number. I play 5, it was 6 but DDO is going free, and free realms is a mindless distraction every few weeks."When you play one MMO, to be a mindless distraction from 5 OTHER MMO's, you may need to sit yourself down and rethink your time management.This is coming from someone who thinks the amount of time he spends on wow is a lot... and it's only ONE MMO.I couldn't imagine putting this much time into an entirely different mmo.. Here's where I get downranked... sorry >_<'But I guess bragging that you waste 5x as much time as the common player, is kind of cool...'/endrant
9-08-2009 @ 2:15AM
@ Dear Adam.Listen, most WOW players are fed up with the hate and ridiculous trolling on some forums about WOW. We just like to play WOW and when we visit a nice safe place like wowinsider, we just want info from the game we ALL love and play.Those of us who have "enough" of the game will search for other games to play (like I had myself a long walk in the desert for 2 years in search for something something even remotely as good as Blizzard made) and guess what - after hundreds of lost euros and dozens of hours - I realized just how shallow and cheap most other mmo's are.So lesson: you write about WOW (and Blizzard) games. If I wanted to have a look at other games, I would visit the other site. And I just pity the loss of money I already invested in all those duds. "War" was the last of a very long series of money grabbers. Those who are happy with those other mmo's must have a real bad taste in talks of game design (I make an exception for EVE - as boring as it may be). But of course some DO like xxxx.So write for the fans and those fans better be warned by a person who tried all those other duds these last 3 years.
9-08-2009 @ 2:40AM
ok so WHAT if they (Adam and the rest of his team) are blatantly cros selling other MMO's on WoWInsider?does it affect any other WoW related content you read from here? did any info here just all of a sudden become less interesting or the WI team becomes less advocate in reporting any WoW information/news to us just because they are doing all these ceoss selling??frankly, i do not think so.maybe it IS whoever WI's sponsor's/company's mandate for them to cross sell other MMO's. hell who cares?i take what i need from here and i be happy with it.
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