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9-08-2009 @ 1:27PM
First off I believe he gave out the loot fair.But I have issue with everyone on calling the dual spec system main and off spec, luckily as a mage I do not have to worry too much about spec switching during a raid. The players who run a warrior/druid/paladin are another issue, I feel that what you have with the spec's instead should be termed primary and secondary, and what is good for the job that needs to be done at the time spec. In our raid which we use a karma system for the loot we simply ask that anyone wanting stuff allow the person who is trying to fill out their primary spec before doing their secondary spec. but we do not stop you from gearing out the other spec you have since we realize we might call on you at a given fight to switch to your second spec because that is the job we need done at that time. If you are a feral druid and we need you to heal in a fight we don't expect you to be denied healing gear just because you primarily use feral gear, we realize you also need good healing gear because we need you to that job also.If you are asked to run in your secondary spec all through a raid I believe you should get equal chance on loot for that spec type as anyone else. There is a catch 22 to all the dual spec issue's and in general to the raids that only take people who meet achievement's and that is you can't get the gear and achievements and if you are not allowed to roll on the needed gear no matter if you are in your primary or secondary spec'd, or to get into the raid in the first place.If you don' get the gear then your left standing there as you are overlooked for the next raid because the leader looks at you and see's poor gear and does not want that person because they are under geared. if you complain that you were denied a chance because the last time in a raid as secondary spec'd, on a gear roll that would improve your secondary spec you were not allowed to roll since it was to improve the so called -off spec-, again a case of catch 22 which leads to not getting into a raid to get achievement for killing a boss which gets you denied again for achievement reasons.a vicious circleI think with the rush to see end content leads to lack of patience, a good raid group who spends time to outfit their players in both spec's even if it takes twice as long to do it will in the end be a more efficient and happy group.Also if the group who use's a occasional pugger to fill out, allows that person to get loot no matter what spec will find a lot of the time that that person by word of mouth will say this is a awesome group to raid with because they are more than fair with loot.I find that is important when getting 25 man's together and need those last 2-4 people on a raid night, some of these people are awesome player's even if under equipped and we know that getting them better equipped will make them that much more valuable.These people will more than willing on spur of the moment join you knowing they will have a fair chance at loot.
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