2v2 team hits 3206 team rating, 3585 personal rating

A 2v2 team on US-Ruin has somehow achieved an unheard-of 3206 team rating. Paper Cut Your Eyelids' team leader is Cäke, a Blood Elf Priest in three-piece Deadly, one-piece Furious Gladiator gear. His Orc partner, Kwamo, a nearly full Furious Assassination Rogue, has somehow amassed a 3585 personal rating on the curiously successful team. This is pretty amazing when you consider the highest 2v2 team last season was rated below 3000.
Red flags are going up over this one, folks.
The team has a strangely unimpressive win ratio of 82-71. If each of their losses brought the team down 0 points, (which we know is untrue from their match history), each of their wins would average out to slightly greater than ~39 points per win. As they are nearly 400 team rating above the next highest team on the battlegroup, one would assume their gains would decrease dramatically the higher they ascend.
Moreover, the team's match history is incredibly weird. Before the team's ridiculously large -938 point loss (at 1220 rating), their match history seems to be perfectly normal. As they ascend the ladder, their winning gains gradually decrease from 47 to the mid 30s. Losses count 0 against them (this is normal), as their match making rating ("MMR") is presumed to be greater than 1200.
The -938 point loss is where things start getting fun.
The armory recording a large point gain or loss "between games," or "in one game," is not necessarily rare. Sometimes, during armory updates, the match history doesn't keep track of games. If a team plays a lot of games in that period, the system will sometimes record teams as going +200 points with no real recollection of how they got there.
So, not necessarily a big deal there... except they went down 938 points from 1220 to 282. To go down that low means your MMR has to be sub-282. Attaining an MMR of those ridiculously low proportions would entail lots and lots of defeat, on purpose, to exceptionally poorly-rated teams. The time this would take would be staggering.
Of course, this wouldn't make much sense either, as a win is registered as giving the team +47 points. To gain 47 points, your match making rating has to be vastly above your team rating. Players who have an MMR of 800 are still vastly above 0, which explains why even they get 47 point wins when starting a new team.
Now, let's take a look at their losses: You would assume that for 47 points won, they would lose 0 points on a loss. Not so. They actually lose 47 points as well, giving them that very weird two point line effect that you see during the second half of their match history. They bounce from 282 to 329 and back many, many times, ending at 329 although the armory has them recorded at 3209. No, Office Space fans, I doubt this is a decimal error.
The mystery doesn't stop there, however: the games themselves are odd.
In most of the team's peculiar wins, Cäke was 1v2ing and got 1 killing blow. Cäke's rogue partner, Kwamo, was nowhere to be found in most of these games. If he entered the arena but disconnected previous to combat initiating, the Armory would show the rogue on game history with 0 damage done, 0 damage received, etc. -- but none of that appears. Virtually all of the teams are different, so it is extremely unlikely that win trading is going on, but something obviously isn't right.
Regardless of what's going on here, it will be interesting to see what happens.
Update: Armory has updated to show the team has played a few more games, and is now rated 2677 with a record of 95-94. Kwamo's personal rating is 3056, down from the 3585 armory had him at earlier.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
Matthew Rossi Sep 12th 2009 9:48PM
"In most of the team's peculiar wins, Cäke was 1v2ing and got 1 killing blow. Cäke's rogue partner, Kwamo was nowhere to be found in most of these games. If he entered the arena but disconnected previous to combat initiating, the Armory would show the rogue on game history with 0 damage done, 0 damage received, etc. -- but none of that appears. Virtually all of the teams are different, so it is extremely unlikely that win trading is going on, but something obviously isn't right."
Did you read that paragraph?
joerendous Sep 12th 2009 10:11PM
i don't think they did, Mr Rossi.
Aarnando Sep 13th 2009 10:06AM
While the blog discussed that it probably isn't win trading going on, it still creates a negative buzz for two players over a database glitch.
If the point is database issues, then the focus should be on the database with this team's ratings as evidence. Instead, it approaches from the other direction discussing red flags and strangeness with this team and their ratings, and offering that it might be a glitch at the end.
Dart Sep 12th 2009 9:34PM
"Actually what he did was Faction Change or Character Recustimization and it automatically puts the persons PR at the new cap... than he played a few games so it looks legit"
Arenajunkies
Dart Sep 12th 2009 9:35PM
Either that or wintrading as 1v2. Doubt that though.
Joelpinkelit Sep 12th 2009 9:40PM
Kinda sad my fail rogue has a better record and only like 1174 rating
grump-e Sep 12th 2009 9:41PM
I think this is an interesting story but its not precisely an easy one to fallow if you are an arena connoisseur or simply not into it at all.
Winterhoof Sep 12th 2009 9:42PM
Proof the arena system is fucked up.
Daniel Sep 13th 2009 12:34AM
"Winterhoof Sep 12th 2009 9:42PM
Proof the arena system is fucked up."
This right here. The arena system is six seasons old and scoring and ranking are still completely arcane. Arena points should have been abandoned in favor of honor points at least five seasons ago.
Roboticus Sep 13th 2009 1:47PM
As someone who has gone through 4 seasons of win-trading, power ranking, and gladiators pounding newbs, I have to disagree. Though it certainly is harder to understand, the fact that the MMR is permanent fixes SO many issues. In the 100 games I've played this season, I still haven't fought a gladiator at my 1800 rating. This is in contrast to seasons 2-4 where 75% of our matches were against gladiators who were just power ranking teams to sell.
Zummers Sep 12th 2009 10:52PM
The Cäke is a lie!
Direwoe Sep 13th 2009 7:27AM
Très bien, mon ami.
Raganer Sep 13th 2009 12:43AM
Really, trashing and speculating on a team without evidence. People often take WoW.com as a trustworthy news source, please ensure your facts are in order before "outing" a group of players based on armory information which is frequently incorrect and poorly updated.
Thanks
Karl Sep 13th 2009 1:23AM
read the article
Matthew Rossi Sep 13th 2009 3:15AM
http://www.wow.com/2009/09/12/2v2-team-hits-3206-team-rating-3585-personal-rating/comments/21565169/
Since you seem to not only fail to read the ARTICLE, but the POST THREAD as well.
WoozyWoW Sep 13th 2009 3:46AM
Rossi, I understand your frustration, but throwing CAPS LOCK at your readers comes off as pretty aggressive.
On topic, I look forward to an arena column as well.
BenMS Sep 13th 2009 6:09AM
It's his website, he has pretty much every right to be a bit abrupt with people. Especially when they absolutely fail at any level of comprehension.
akuenu Sep 13th 2009 3:08AM
It's amazing how armory has become a tool for snitches.
Endless Sep 13th 2009 5:14AM
Indeed. I got two botters and one goldseller reported and eventually banned thanks to the Armory and ingame statistics. It's an awesome tool. It's so easy to discover a strange, unusual behavior, or even downright cheating.
Wither Sep 13th 2009 7:13AM
To be a snitch (aka informer) you have to inside information and rattle out your comrade(s). That's why it looked down on, as it is often amoral.
This is more like neighbourhood watch. If you see a person climbing into your neighbour's house through the window, you might draw attention to it. Unless that person was a friend of yours and had previously told you that they were going to rob the house, then it wouldn't make you a snitch.
If you intend to suggest the article is amoral you'll have to work harder than name-calling.