Drama Mamas: What are you here for?
Dodge the drama and become that player everyone wants in their group with the Drama Mamas. Lisa Poisso and Robin Torres are real-life mamas and experienced WoW players -- and just as we don't want our precious babies to be the ones kicking and wailing on the floor of checkout lane next to the candy, neither do we want you to become known as That Guy on your server. We're taking your questions at DramaMamas (at) WoW (dot) com.
Why do you play World of Warcraft? If you don't know what you want to get out of playing – if you're just surfing the wave after being swept up by the current – you'll be vulnerable to making poor choices when something that happens in game or even gaming itself conflicts with something else in your life. What is it that you value most about your WoW time? (Do you relish mastering raiding content with your guild? Do you savor the downtime of ticking off levels and achievements on your alts? Do you simply want to deflate after a long day by hanging out on Vent with your buddies?)
Prioritizing what's going on in your game is the first step in prioritizing what's going on in the rest of your life. Things get especially tricky when you're trying to balance your hobby time with your own family. This week, the Drama Mamas help two readers tighten their focus. One young player discovers that there aren't enough hours in the day to accomplish everything he'd like to plus play WoW, too, and another reader struggles to figure out how to balance tells from a pesky young relative with enjoying a relaxing evening.
Even a Naughty Illidan loves his mumHey hey Mamas, I need some help, please! Now, my mum and I agree that it's cool for me to play World of Warcraft -- and I do, but there is one minor problem: She doesn't want me getting on the computer until all my chores are done, and then it's time for dinner, washing up and then I'm off to my room for some game time with guildies.
I know, I know, that's cool, but there is still one problem ... She gets upset that I don't spend time with her, and as she is a single-through-the-week mother, she makes me feel like a naughty Illidan on the inside. I've also chatted to her about when she wants me to be spending time with her and she simply says, "It doesn't matter, so long as you're happy." Please help! Sincerely, Possibly Naughty Illidan
Drama Mama Lisa: Possibly Naughty, I don't think you're possibly naughty at all – I think you're quite the perceptive young man! Most of the problems we address here at Drama Mamas stem from players' not being able to see the forest for the trees, but you've already spotted the exact tree that needs attention. Kudos to you for your insight.
The reality is that sometimes there aren't enough hours in every day for WoW. In your case, it's spending time with your mum – but other players find themselves balancing time with significant others, family, work, other hobbies ... You've already recognized the futility of trying to fit in time with your mum on top of your other responsibilities and a busy play schedule. It just doesn't work, and you're going to drive both of you crazy as long as you persist in trying to pound that square peg into the round hole.
Take a deep breath and re-evaluate your weekly schedule. Have you ever chatted with your mum about what guild events are like and how long they typically take? What nights is your mother free or have the most energy in doing things with you? What nights are guild events? Carving out some offline evenings removes the pressure of "hurryhurryhurry-so-I-can-go-log-in."
Let me add that as painful as it can be to peel time away from something you really enjoy, you simply can't replace time spent with people you care about. Give yourself the space to relax and embrace it, even on nights when nothing spectacular seems to happen. Oh – and give your mum a hug from the Drama Mamas, will you?
Drama Mama Robin: Hey Possibly, you did the right thing about asking her when she wants to spend time with you, but obviously she wants you to take the initiative. Though Bonechiller's situation was a little different, this advice I gave him about playing on a school night may help you too. Basically, you want to approach her with something concrete - a proposal to negotiate from.
- Create a schedule for the week and fill in non-negotiable blocks: school, your mom's work, etc., so that you have a good view of your free time.
- Schedule in good times to complete your chores.
- Pencil in the times you want to be playing WoW: regular raid times, when your favorite groupmates are on, etc.
- Using Lisa's suggestions, figure out when would be good times to spend with your mom, and pencil those in.
- Take the schedule to your mom and work together to schedule regular mom-time that works for both of you - even if it means giving up a favorite raid time.
- Keep to the schedule! Your game time should be flexible to adjust for things with higher priority, which is pretty much everything else.
Oh, boy – not HIM again ...Hey, Drama Mamas: My nephew has started playing WoW and is playing on my server. His mom, my sister, is not a gamer. I like the kid and I sometimes run him through stuff, but he is very frustrating to play with. He's late to our meeting spots. He goes AFK all the time, usually without warning. (My sister often calls him away to do stuff.) And he bugs me all the time when I'm raiding: "Are you done yet?" "Is it over yet?" I am getting afraid to log in any time I think he may be on. Help! Signed, Uncle Gamer
Drama Mama Robin: Hey Uncle, your nephew is a classic Timesucker. This can also happen with parents or people who play at work. They may have great priorities, but not-so-great time management. And because they aren't good with their own time, they are even worse with yours. This is completely understandable in a child, but of course, very frustrating for you.
The best thing to do with a Timesucker:
- Schedule playdates Work with your sister for good playdate times, where they agree (as in the case of Possibly Naughty Illidan, above) that if he does his important stuff first that she will allow him to play uninterrupted.
- Make a duo Roll characters together on another server and only play those characters during your playdates. If you level together, he will learn to be more self-sufficient and you will be less of the supervisor in-game. Once a week would be very generous; twice a month would be really cool.
- Become unavailable on your server This will be the hardest part to implement. Of course, you want to keep chatting with him and answering his questions, but save playing with him for your playdates. If you do meet up with him on your server at all, make sure you are clear that you cannot do it after raids. If your nephew has no expectations for your raid time, he won't bug you (much) during it.
- Explain raid etiquette and demands. Kids may not understand why you can't or don't want to answer them when you're raiding. Explain it! Also make sure he knows when you're likely to be raiding, how long raids typically last and how to check your location before he sends you a whisper.
- Talk to your sister. Explain how long common activities you and your nephew enjoy take, explain the effect of constant interruptions – and most importantly, ask if there are any specific times that she would prefer you not play with her son.
- Help your nephew respond to interruptions responsibly. Teach him to respond to his mom's requests clearly: "Sure, Mom, but I'm doing some quests with Uncle Gamer right now and this will interrupt our progress. How long should I tell him I'll need to be gone?" While you're at it, teach him not to AFK without talking to you about it first – or that if he does, you're likely to move on to other activities in game or offline.
- Screen your whispers. While it's true that it's polite to answer whispers whenever possible, it's not a moral imperative. If you're raiding when your nephew pings you, reply once: "Hi! Haha, that was a funny joke. Hey, busy raiding right now, will talk after 10:00 when I'm free." (Notice the concrete time? Give him an idea of how long you'll be busy; pad it, if you like.) Then don't reply again until you're out of the raid.
- Set your expectations. Even with improvements in the above areas, your nephew probably won't be as prompt and reliable as an adult. Don't set up a playdate with him unless you're willing to see it through in all its time-snarfing glory. And be open to alternatives – it's perfectly cool to just chat (in whispers, group or on Vent) while you're doing things in game separately.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Rubitard Sep 18th 2009 1:13PM
I don't play WoW, WoW plays me.
/deep
Fierna Sep 18th 2009 1:17PM
I think Uncle Gamer is in a great position to pass along valuable life lessons to his nephew. Adults can't always do what you want, sometimes you have to be patient, and sometimes we all must fend for ourselves. Kids hear "No" often enough, they will get it.
Beli Sep 18th 2009 1:39PM
For Possibly Naughty Illidan:
- Scheduling time with you mom is great, and definitely something you should do. Unfortunately, if you just schedule the time and end up sitting infront of the TV with her, it's not going to be considered terribly valuable time. I would suggest instead coming up with a few activities you can plan to do with her on a regular basis that would provide a more enjoyable experience for both of you. A weekly board game night, or start a small garden, and spend a few hours Saturday mornings working in it with her (Bonus: fresh produce tastes a ton better!). If you can set up activities that are fun or have a specific goal you want to accomplish, you won't be sitting there thinking "I wish i was playing WoW right now..."
Aedilhild Sep 18th 2009 1:41PM
Some relatives are perfect fits.
I introduced my 60-year-old father to the game at summer's start.
Would he enjoy the game, I wondered? In between consulting and teaching at a college in semi-retirement, he's nearing Level 50.
Would he need a lot of guidance — even coddling? After 15 levels or so, he turned off tips and prefers to level solo. And he makes a killing at the auction house.
I love my old man.
BooMsx Sep 18th 2009 2:22PM
Yeah i love your old man too ^_^ GZ to a perfect father!
Boszorkany Sep 18th 2009 2:52PM
Grats to your dad!
And kudos to you to introducing him to what has turned out to be something he seems to enjoy as much as you do! Gotta love those parental bonding moments!
Aaron Sep 18th 2009 1:56PM
The first story made me "awww" the second I can relate too. Great advice on setting schedules, now I just need to follow that advice myself. I have neglected a thing or ten due to my WoW playing. I wish this column was 10 times longer though. I just love reading it that much! Good work, mamas. =D
Jason P Sep 18th 2009 2:01PM
For Uncle Gamer, I loved the suggestion of "Sure, Mom, but I'm doing some quests with Uncle Gamer right now and this will interrupt our progress. How long should I tell him I'll need to be gone?".
I would suggest they also try "Sure, Mom, but I'm doing some quests with Uncle Gamer right now. Can I do that in about 10 mins when we finish this?"
I've never had to do that while playing WoW, since I dont live with Mom, but in the past, I have asked this while watching a tv show, reading a book, etc.
Aaron B Sep 18th 2009 2:04PM
That sounds a lot like my family. I have a few relatives that all play wow. We have a good mix of people. Some just do it for fun, some are hard core... and some are level 80 warlocks that the raid is counting on to summon everyone, but who go AFK unexpectedly. It's all in good fun, and I think the solution is to know what to expect. Some people like JerryNoah and Kennys (gotta give my shout outs!) are just known as "that guy." Sometimes you just need a body on the floor to get things rolling, you gotta expect these things with these types of players.
These are the people that trudged along without really taking the time to learn the nuances (or sometimes the basic mechanics) of the game, but managed to get a high level through PUGs and forcing people to help. Just another type of player, I guess.
Drow Sep 18th 2009 3:40PM
Why I play WoW...
I sometimes hate logging on. I avoid it. But then I want to. I have two toons.
One leads a successfull raiding guild, but it was first created with a group of friends. It then fell on my shoulders to pick all that up, and balance their feelings and manage the guild, handling the whispers of all the members and their concerns on top of everything else. I know if I log in, I'll get asked tons of questions. I also manage the site and vent, and double over my old job as DKP officer. Plus I've been raid leader. It's almost a "chore" and almost look at raid nights as work nights, and look forward to off nights as if it's the weekend. We are pushing Ulduar hard modes and trying to do ToC tribute runs, all 25-man of course, while our 10-mans are on Algalon and finishing tribute runs. Everyone is almost in BiS.
My other toon, is in a more casual raiding guild, where progression is on getting down the keepers on normal mode. I don't mind logging in, doing the raid, and being done with it.
I really don't know why I play WoW. I used to play because I loved the Warcraft lore and was a big fan of WC3, then I started up again to play with friends, but now...I log on to update DKP and and record loot while leading the raid and managing the guild. I feel I HAVE to do it. I LIKE being at the top end pushing the newest content, but with Blizzard new "hard modes" style, it doesn't feel mandatory like it used to. You don't learn and down a boss and move on anymore.
So...I play WoW b/c I feel obligated?
Andostre Sep 18th 2009 5:36PM
Drow, I've been there. All that stuff you listed is a source of stress that you just don't need. If you're running that much of your guild and you're not enjoying it, that's just not good for your mental health, man.
You say that you like "being at the top end pushing the newest content," but from the way you said it, it sounds like you already know that it's just not worth it. Try designating some of that responsibility to other officers in your guild. Like DKP maintenance or leading the raid. At one point, we had a rule in our (admittedly casual) guild that the Guild Master should not also be the official Raid Leader. It's just not fair to the person who has to fill both of those roles unless the guild is made up of a bunch of your laid back friends.
Seriously, stop doing all the management work for your other guildies so that you get to enjoy the game, too. If you manage that and you're still not happy... and especially if you DON'T manage that... it's probably time to take a break from WoW. Being a hardcore raider isn't worth your mental health.
AeZ Sep 19th 2009 12:10AM
A guild is what a guild is.. alot of people do not understand the effort that has to happen to make one work and continue to do so. Something to note, keep a character that you can enjoy the game with.. and one that handles the responsibilities.. it isn't all glamour- it can be a helluva schedule on top of real life. Gratz for holding it together. Start delegating. It is a necessity!
Zachery Egan Sep 18th 2009 4:23PM
I got excited by the title, I thought they were going to announce the end of this particularly non-interesting blog....
Sigh..
Oh-Well, downrank away
Soulpen Sep 18th 2009 4:39PM
Possibly Naughty- Your mother is a woman, which means she is going to ask you for things, and then give you no guidance, schedule or tips on how to accomplish them. If it sounds unfair, that's because it is. Welcome to manhood, heres your card.
Zanathos Sep 18th 2009 5:42PM
I loled
Quark1020 Sep 18th 2009 10:46PM
Messed up as that came out, it was awsome XD
I also loled
Zanathos Sep 18th 2009 5:42PM
About Uncle Gamer talking to his sister, it'd probably help if he could analogize WoW to an activity she'd understand. Most non gamers tend to think that video games are something you can just pause or put down and come to later, like a book (and a lot of single player games are like that). If you give her a context like playing bridge or tennis, where the other people can't do anything while a player is missing, it'll help her understand the concern and hopefully her them into the habit of doing chores before or a wow session.
Rai Sep 18th 2009 7:20PM
I play WoW because I enjoy it.
Sleutel Sep 19th 2009 11:47AM
Anybody else notice that the picture at the head of the article features one of those freaks of nature who wears their watch backwards? Aaaack.
Possibly Naughty Illidan: I'm 26, and I still schedule time with my mom! We get together every Sunday night for dinner, chatting, and videos. Setting aside time that you both know you'll be available works great--you know when you can look forward to enjoying each other's company, so you can leave each other alone the rest of the time. :P