High-Rated PvPers do the robot

We've gotten a bunch of tips recently that claim some very e-famous PvPers are botting in BGs. If you aren't familiar with the term "botting," Dictionary.com provides us with the following definitions of bot:
- Bot:
–noun
the larva of a botfly. - Bot:
–noun (Australian Slang)
a person who cadges; scrounger. - Bot:
–noun
a device or piece of software that can execute commands, reply to messages, or perform routine tasks, as online searches, either automatically or with minimal human intervention (often used in combination): intelligent infobots; shopping bots that help consumers find the best prices.
In addition to the third definition above, here's some quick terms that are commonly used:
- Botting: short for "robot...ing," "having a robot/program play your character," and/or "turning your character into a robot."
- Bot: a program used to turn a character into a robot. i.e. a program which plays your character (very poorly). It can also be used as a verb. "Jimmy bots so he can get honor when he is not at his computer."
- Botter: a player who uses a bot.
- Bot and Botter can also refer to the actual character within the game. "I just spotted a bot killing a rare in Silithus." "Wait, what is a botter doing in Silithus?"
Why do players bot?
Bots are designed and marketed around nearly every aspect of the game. There are bots for:
- Leveling
- Fishing
- Gathering (mining, herbing)
- Mob-Killing
- The Auction House
- Honor (battleground anti-AFK)
- Spam (gold companies use this one mostly)
Curiously enough, we haven't seen many high-rated PvPers (especially ones on the very top of the arena ladders, or #1 gladiators at that) using bots to grind honor on their main characters. Perhaps it's because most high-rated PvPers actually enjoy PvPing. Personally, I really enjoy getting a ton of honor and buying a new piece of Relentless Gladiator Gear (or whatever the new piece of gear is) when the season rolls around.
Are battlegrounds getting too difficult for these PvPers? I doubt it. The players who have been reported to us have Furious Gladiator titles, or are/were very high rungs on the arena ladders. I've witnessed quite a few hardcore arena players having no problem rolling into a Warsong Gulch and taking control of a large part of the game. So why would they decide to get a mere fraction of that honor by using a bot?
Are BGs getting old for the arena folk? In my experience I've been able to amass a large amount of honor by hopping between battlegrounds and having fun. I still really enjoy hitting up the blacksmith in Arathi Basin or split-second saving a flag cap in Warsong Gulch. I don't know why battlegrounds would be tiresome to arena players in the first place -- it's not like we're in there all the time. I mean, Isle of Conquest is a very new battleground, and one that I don't feel I've really sunk my teeth into yet.
Botters Beware
Even though I have personally never looked into botting, I know people who have. Some have gotten away with it for an extended period of time, some have been suspended, others have gotten insta-super-perma-hammer-banned on first use.
Here's a pretty detailed explanation of what happens with botters:
- Billy hears from Jimmy that botting is awesomesauce.
- Billy decides to research botting.
- Billy finds a company willing to let him use a botting program if he gives them some money using his mom's credit card.
- Billy downloads the bot, and installs it successfully.
- Billy proceeds to clap his hands with glee as his level 17 mage runs around casting frostbolt (and nothing but frostbolt) on any mob it tab targets.
- Billy leaves his computer on while he goes to watch Sesame Street (it's the episode where Big Bird skins his knee roller skating).
- Billy comes back to his lappy 386 to discover his account has been suspended.
- Billy gets pwned irl by his mom.
- Billy decides to file charges against his mom.
- Billy's lawyers expect a multi-million-dollar payout.
- Billy's lack of credibility is his downfall, as information comes forth that Billy used a botting program.
- Big Bird is disappointed in Billy.
I know one guy who is on his 4th account because the previous three were closed due to botting. The 4th, you guessed it, is also being botted. Money for so many months of botting services really adds up, especially when you consider he's also paying to play WoW in the first place.
Why he buys World of Warcraft time to let a program (which he also purchases) play his character for him is beyond me.
How can I tell if someone is botting?
Many people will say, "It's obvious." What they mean by this is that bots within the game are programmed using a series of "if this is true do proceed to step 2" type commands. If you see a character moving in an awkward or rigid motion, casting one spell on mobs over and over with seemingly no use of other abilities, you've probably got a bot on your hands.
Bots in battlegrounds will often be assigned to move to or patrol a set area. The bot will head to that area and ignore everything else along the way until it gets there. Once there, it will try to detect enemy players and try to kill the player in the same way it would try to kill a naga in zangarmarsh.
In battlegrounds, bots will often have zero killing blows, very few deaths and very little damage compared to the rest of the team. The objective of the bot is to enter a BG, go to an assigned area, and get off afk markers (you know, those things people get if you report them) if they detect any.
Botters will also not respond to tells as they are not at their computer. A non-responsive, twitchy or rigid character who seems to only use a few abilities out of his spellbook is your classic botter.
What can I do if I see a botter?
Open a ticket with a GM. Blizzard is very interested in stopping botters and will conduct an investigation if your ticket is persuasive. Explain in as much detail as you can what you perceive the botter is doing. Until next time, enjoy some sweet dance moves from the original robot.
Wow.com recently asked players, hypothetically, what they would bot if given the chance. Lisa Poisso also got to interview a botter about feelings of accomplishments and the risk of getting banned. If that's not enough reading on bots for you, Adam Holisky asks "Do botters really matter?" Be sure to check out the latest PvP, Battleground, and Arena info while you're at it! Warning: WoW.com is monitoring the comments on this article. Any inappropriate language or links to sites which support or distribute botting or cheating software will be removed and the commenter will be banned.
Filed under: Cheats, PvP, Wrath of the Lich King, Battlegrounds, Rumors






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 7)
Deathgodryuk Sep 21st 2009 6:57PM
I care in battlegrounds because you are nothing but a drag on everyone else. I like to win and you prevent that from happening because there are 5 of you running in little circles and not doing anything worthwhile. You kill the fun experience of battlegrounds for everyone else.
DAWG Sep 21st 2009 6:04PM
The hell was that outcome?? lol
Elmouth Sep 21st 2009 9:21PM
Most botters are lvling alts while they're at work/sleeping.
High-end arena botters are simply disgusted by the current BG system, they hate being forced to group with random retards and the like, which is totally understandable.
Also, it is perfectly possible to "bot" without an actual bot. You simply need a an auto-typer and a few maccros to get you in the bg.
DAWG Sep 21st 2009 6:05PM
^The Explanation made me lol^
Alanid Sep 22nd 2009 11:54AM
"Big Bird is disappointed in Billy"
That made the whole article win
Nick S Sep 21st 2009 6:09PM
Flame away, but answer this question for yourself: Who's the bigger loser, the one who spends hours every day grinding honor to fulfill Blizzard's profit-driven playtime goals, or the one who sets up a bot and spends those hours doing something worthwhile outside of the game?
The real solution to battleground botting is to remove the (currently completely insane) grind from honor farming, but Blizzard won't do that, because it would allow the true no-lifers to finish gearing up too quickly (and then cry about it.)
The Artist formally known as Jesus Sep 21st 2009 6:20PM
nah he probably wasn't outside, he was probably browsing AJ forums
DAWG Sep 21st 2009 6:25PM
O shiiii it's Jesus
Or at least the Artist Formerly Known As Jesus
Jade Sep 21st 2009 6:30PM
The one who thinks a game is so important that they consider grinding for honor important enough to spend money on either way. If it's not fun, don't do it, but don't try to convince me that anything is important enough for you to have a bot do it while you go watch the latest movie at the theater.
I play around 4 hours a week, max, I just got my shiny Violet Proto-drake because that's all I played to do.
The real solution to botting is don't be a loser. Of course that's the real solution to gold-selling and all manner of other things to.
I don't grind, and I have sufficient amounts of fun and still have a life.
impurezero Sep 21st 2009 6:39PM
Honestly? If given the choice between someone who does a lot of something they enjoy, and someone who just wants to have the best rating at something they apparently don't enjoy that much? I'd say the botter is the loser. Especially since his approach is coming at the expense of those who really do just want to play a game against another human being.
Something being a "waste of time" is relative. Different strokes for different folks. Some people indulge in too much PvP, TV, Sleeping, F***ing, Eating, Working, etc. For anything anyone does, there can be someone like you with the "opinion" that it's a waste of time. Even things that a botter considers "worthwhile" are subject to this.
But to sit back and let something do all the work for you, just so a shiny scroll can flash across your screen? I find a bit more fault in that, because I don't see the point.
These are all just differences in opinions, though. One thing, however, is a fact...only one of those people is breaking the terms they agreed to.
thebvp Sep 21st 2009 6:42PM
And you botting affects affects this, how?
Actually, if anything, it lowers their profits when you bot and get banned for the offense.
Botting is a sort of categorical imperative-type rule. If everyone did it, the game would cease to be a game anymore with millions (literally, millions) of automatons running around the place. It would be pointless and the game would be ruined.
This is kindergarten age level ethics stuff, by the way. You can't run around the classroom like a maniac, because if everyone did, it would be chaos. It's unfair to everyone. So sit back down on the carpet and listen to the lesson about numbers.
impurezero Sep 21st 2009 6:47PM
Oh yeah...this makes me laugh, too:
"Blizzard won't do that, because it would allow the true no-lifers to finish gearing up too quickly (and then cry about it.)"
No, no...you're confusing your anti-Blizzard rhetoric. The current "QQ" is that Blizzard DOES give welfare epics to everyone. Jeez...at least get it right.
Janaa Sep 21st 2009 7:30PM
@Nick S - In answer to your original question, the biggest loser is the individual who has to cheat to attain what he thinks is so important rather than working for it.
To follow your line of thought to logical conclusion, the smartest move would be for everyone to AFK bot. However if that were the case, then you'd have 10 players standing at the graveyard, doing nothing, earning no honor.
Cheaters are a very low form of scum. They lack both self-respect (or have a false sense of self-respect) and respect for others. Not only have the decided it's okay to abuse the efforts of others, but they've managed to rationalize in their own mind fantastical reasons such as yours why they're actually "better" for doing less, being worse, and being abusive. Very low self-esteem.
They're also chronic masturbators. Just thought you should know.
Nick S Sep 21st 2009 7:56PM
The flames didn't take long. I want to reassure everyone that I'm not trolling; I think this is a worthwhile conversation, even if continuing it means getting flamed through multiple comment pages.
Talking about morals and cheating doesn't impress me - if I had some way to bot Arenas, where I'm actually competing against someone for a limited resource (rating), I might call that cheating. But the honor grind is an artificial mechanic designed solely to slow the rate of gear acquisition for PvPers. It's a rote task, and I choose to automate it. There is no requirement that you be skilled, or smart, or even involved in the action. With no challenge, there's simply no interest, and no actual advantage to be gained over someone else by breaking the rules of the game.
If botting is so incredibly offensive to your view of how WoW should be, you have the means to do something about it - report the "cheaters" every time you run a battleground. I accept that Blizzard's rules are law in the game, and if I get a ban, it'll be perfectly fair. To be honest, I'm increasingly of the opinion that it'd be a good thing.
If you have full Relentless off-set right now, think about how much time you spent getting it. Be honest. Was that time worth it? People who play this game like to tell themselves how great their real lives are, but I've seen firsthand what "hardcore" means, and I can tell you - if you're playing several hours every single day, your life is not what it could be.
The people who spend all day in battlegrounds, or all day completing daily quests, are the ditch-diggers of World of Warcraft - doing rote labor for small rewards. If I have to cheat to get out of the ditch, so be it.
Continue flaming.
Jade Sep 21st 2009 8:00PM
"If I have to cheat to get out of a ditch"
So being a mugger, or embezzeler is better that ditch digging? Awesome.
Also, responding to a troll with a differing opinion isn't flaming, flaming would be attacking your pedigree or heritage.
Janaa Sep 21st 2009 8:32PM
"With no challenge, there's simply no interest, and no actual advantage to be gained over someone else by breaking the rules of the game."
You're trying to justify something which is fundamentally wrong. It's not an "artificial grind". It's an actual grind. You make it artificial by botting. But lets look at the statement I quoted. I wholeheartedly disagree.
The purpose of the grind you're going through is to get PVP gear, with which to more easily kill opponent players. Now - if you've botted 200 games, and you're up against someone who has PLAYED 10 games, your gear is going to be markedly better than theirs, despite the fact they put in 10 games of effort and you put in none.
You are trivialising their efforts. You see it as a grind. Others see it as reward for the time they're putting into playing. You call it an artificial grind simply to dismiss any reason for playing legitimately. However the fact is, the intention of said grind is to reward players who bother to go through it with better gear.
Your false sense of entitlement has led you to believe you deserve the gear, despite not putting in the effort. In fact you're going so far as to say that you're actually a superior individual than those who earn the rewards. There is no truth or logic to either of these. It's merely self-justification for cheating. You're so screwed up, you won't even admit it is cheating - putting the word in inverted commas to try and suggest "That's what people CALL it, but it's fully legitimate".
So no - other players are not unaffected by your actions. Every time you don your ill-gotten gear (or any upgrades that you've been able to earn as a result of your ill-gotten gear) and go and kill another player with it - that's just another person you've cheated out of the time they put into the game.
Janaa Sep 21st 2009 8:46PM
Furthermore, to your attempted justification that "Blizz should just remove the grind so we start off with good pvp gear", that's simply moving the goal line. We already start off with the same gear. We then play and earn upgrades. If we started off in "better" gear, nothing would change except everyone would start in the same better gear, and have to again play and earn upgrades.
You say cheating in arenas is bad because you're actually weighing one persons arena rating against anothers. Yet, by skipping the honor grind and starting arenas in gear far better than fresh 80-dingers could possibly get, you're artificially placing yourself ahead of most other beginner rated teams you come up against. You're starting with gear you cheated to get, hence your skill is not actually being tested until you moving up a few hundred ratings - to players who are in the same gear level as you.
There are complete sets of crafted beginner PVP gear for every spec. If you actually want to play the game as it's intended, throw away all the gear you got illegitimately. Go buy a full set of crafted PVP blues for your spec. Then, go to arenas, and start working your way legitimately up through the rankings into better gear. If you don't like battlegrounds - don't do them. You don't need them to get the best PVP gear in the game. There are crafted PVP alternatives for almost every trinket/ring/etc. For the few items you actually need honor to get, go play AV. Actually PLAY it. You might enjoy it.
travis Sep 21st 2009 9:12PM
This is the way I see it. People work hard for their money (irl, and I guess WoW as well), and they earn it, and they spend it on what they want. Now there are people who use technology to steal money from others, ie hackers, key-loggers, etc. Instead of working for their money, they would prefer to steal it, taking it from the people who worked for it, and giving it to themselves, who have not worked for it (sort of like Obama's plans, but thats not the point).
So I challenge you tell me, in however long of a post you like, using the word "flame" as many times as you like, why botting is not considered stealing. Seriously, I am very interested on why you think taking something without working for it is not considered cheating and stealing.
Oh, and another thing.... yes, you are trolling. There is a nifty little feature on WoW.com that lets you read a posters old posts. From reading them, I see you have a Warlock, Mage, Hunter, Priest, Rogue, and a Pally... not to mention that you post at least once a day on WoW.com. You also have a post on (http://www.wow.com/2009/08/08/the-colosseum-dimitrius-of-korgath/) saying how you should play as much pvp as possible, up to 100 games per week. Now all of this combined, and your saying you don't like 'hardcore' gamers?!?
Think again before you post...
Nick S Sep 21st 2009 11:52PM
Stealing: Bob has something. I take it. Now Bob does not have that thing, and I do.
AFKing: Bob has nothing. Bob runs around capping flags, causing Bob and everyone around him to have something.
100 games a week is less time than grinding one piece of Relentless per week, unless perhaps you play an ultra-slow outlast Arena comp. But the main reason your research is irrelevant is that 100 games a week isn't that much time, but 100 games a week plus 40 hours of honor farming is way, way too much. At least, it's too much for me. Some people are content to spend literally all of their time playing.
I used to play fair - going hard in BGs to help my side win. I used to play hours every day, thus the multiple 80s. Then I realized that by playing according to the rules set by reality (if you're caught, you're banned - this is a rule set by reality) and not by the moral expectations of the group, I could improve my real life and still participate in the parts of WoW that are actually enjoyable for me.
Oni Stardust Sep 22nd 2009 12:29AM
"Stealing: Bob has something. I take it. Now Bob does not have that thing, and I do.
AFKing: Bob has nothing. Bob runs around capping flags, causing Bob and everyone around him to have something."
Correction- AFKing: Bob and his team work hard trying to win in a Battleground and get rewarded for it. But since you were AFK in Bob's team, you also get the reward despite not doing jack shit to earn it. In other words, you're stealing from Bob and everyone else in the battleground.