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9-23-2009 @ 8:43PM
Yesterday the General Forums were full of "Loot Pinata" and LOL so easy I was bored posts.Last night we tried Ony 25, and I am certain those Forum Posters had NOT done the new Ony.I am an old Ony Vet, killed her every week in Vanilla, so I know the fight.
9-23-2009 @ 9:16PM
The Ony could deep breath every five seconds for 100k damage to everyone in the room, and people would still complain that she's been dumbed down for "casuals".If there's one thing you need to know if you're going to play WoW, it's that the players will whine about anything. No exceptions.
9-23-2009 @ 11:29PM
I concur, I went into the 10-man fight last night having done it in Vanilla WoW and expecting her to be piss-easy what everyone was saying about her. Goddamn was I wrong. It took us about five tries and a couple of group changes to kick out some DPS we eventually had to accept weren't geared enough.We got her down once we got together a group of well-geared people, and even then we finished the fight with four people down, including the MT (I had to step in and tank Ony for the last 20% when he went down) and one of the heals. The fight is certainly not a hard-mode level difficulty, but it does require strategy, precision and good gear to pull off right.
9-23-2009 @ 11:32PM
^piss-easy based on what everyone was saying about her.I wish these posts had an edit function =\
9-24-2009 @ 2:50AM
@KillchronoOh wow a third tier raid requires more than greens to pull off? Color me surprised!And sorry but it is easy if you are actually in Uld level gear. You don't need monstrous amounts of DPS, you don't need masses of heals (we two healed it on 10), and the tanks don't die due to king hits in 1 GCD. 90% of the fight is people being awake and not standing in the fire, and as you don't need to push DPS or heals that's it."Easy boss" does not mean "can be done in greens". Tank and spank fights are easy but you still need the DPS and HPS to complete them.The only thing "hard" about Ony-10 is people forgetting how dragons work (frontal cleave, and tail swipe) and have always worked. Oh and the whelps DCing people.Ony-25 on the other hand is a bigger step up depending on your raid comp. If you took all ranged it would probably be a joke as the biggest problem is melee dying to the guardian nova's (or being distracted by them and taking a deep breath).
9-24-2009 @ 3:54AM
Ony 25 is a joke. We went without our best raid comp with a few trials and friend ranks in the raid, and one shot her without trying hard. Breaths are easy to avoid, I mean, when she starts to cast it, move aside. Novas? They are tanked away from the raid, guardians are dpsed down in under 10 seconds. Whelps? Please. This is all raiding 101, if youve cleared ulduar this is not a challenge. Yet heres a piñata you can have a whack at every week for easy fast gear. Im tired of faceroll bosses, I mean I understood Naxx was meant as an easy entry level raid, but it seems to me every new raid, every new boss is "entry level" by now and the only hard content left is in hard modes, which are exceedingly hard when you look at stuff like Yogg +0 and TotGC 25.
9-24-2009 @ 6:57AM
I don't know about the rest of my guild, but I never went to the Ony raid in Vanilla WoW. In BC, I recall going with a group of 14 other people, levels ranging from 63-70, ONCE to kill Onyxia.My opinion of this is that she was a pushover. With just that little bit of experience I had no problem at all in our 25 and 10 man groups last night. 25 and 10-man Onyxia both were very easy for us - as in, we 1-shot both, and we had very few, if any deaths [I believe one or two died in 25m and none died in 10m]. 10-man, we 2-healed it. These are people who are geared fairly well and are used to working together, who have a little bit of common sense and actually take the time to read up on [and understand] how the encounter goes.If you are in a poorly geared group, you could have problems.If a few people do not know the encounter, you could have problems.If both are true, you absolutely WILL have problems.Know the encounter and don't expect a cakewalk going into it if there is any doubt over your gear, skill, or cohesion as a team. Read the strategy, because if you don't know WTF to do, it could be 50 DKP minus. Kick people who screw up if you actually have a problem wiping on this, and as my raid leader says: "If you aren't a baller, don't try baller moves." Stick to the plan, stick to your role.I did find that there were some things that were factually inaccurate. As melee, I could not attack Onyxia when she was in the air [I had read that you could]. I kept trying to find the "sweet spot" under her. After trying to attack her [unsuccessfully] from the same spot that a hunter pet was trained on her I decided to put my efforts elsewhere. Despite this setback, I still pulled over 6k DPS. I reiterate: she seemed a pushover.
9-24-2009 @ 9:01AM
@RaptorThe way everyone was going on about how it was a welfare epics fight, yeah, I honestly did expect it to be a faceroll. Not 'noob 80 in greens' easy but certainly T7-8 easy. In the end we had to kick some people who weren't pulling their dps and that's when we got the fight down. People have just got so caught up in the whole 'Blizz is dumbing down the game' mentality that the phrase 'loot Pinata' is like a reflex reaction to anything they bring out.And I wasn't complaining about how hard it is, if anything I thought it was a decent level of difficulty. I was simply agreeing with the OP that people have blown how easy it is out of proportion. It was still tricky in parts, mainly the transition from phase 2 to 3, and I admit I was slightly caught off by the new adds in phase 2, but it was nothing a competant group of raiders couldn't get, certainly after some practice.
9-24-2009 @ 10:08AM
Okay, Ony was easy. I have the achievement, check my armory...Randul on Malygos server. I believe we got her on our fourth try. On every try (including our successful one) our add tank disconnected. That was the hardest part of this fight. Once we saw what was going to happen, seeing as 8 out of 10 of us had never been there, it was a piece of cake. If you can keep the adds from running amok during phase 2, you can beat this fight. We 2-healed this with a druid healer who has been 80 for about a week and a half. I believe this fight is too easy for the level of gear/emblems it gives out. See my blog post on http://wheresmedrink.wordpress.com for the whole story.
9-24-2009 @ 2:49PM
Dear retards,This is not supposed to be a progression raid, it's a 5th anniversary celebration. Stop whining about how easy you think it is and go do something that challenges your e-peen more.
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