Guildwatch: Have a nice day baddie

I live a good part of my life on the Internet -- I work on the Internet, and throughout the years, I've learned to play quite a bit on the Internet. So I realize that once I post something everyone can see, it's not necessarily mine any more -- once I share it with the public at large, I can't really lay much claim to it being mine and mine alone. That said, I understand Ravenmeow's problem above -- Deathlymorg of Endless Fury on Nagrand purportedly stole her tips off of her guild's website and reposted them (without credit, we assume) on his own. Sure, they were on the Internet, and nothing you really post on the Internet, especially in a forum, can ever be locked down again. But I see the complaint, especially when Deathlymorg isn't even the least bit grateful for the information, not to mention that he is pretty condescending to boot.
That drama and much more in this week's Guildwatch (which you really shouldn't go reposting in full on your guild's forums, but hey, can I really stop you?), along with the usual downed and recruiting notices as well. To share something from your guild (or a bit of drama you've noticed elsewhere), send us an email at guildwatch@wow.com. Read on for more.
That drama and much more in this week's Guildwatch (which you really shouldn't go reposting in full on your guild's forums, but hey, can I really stop you?), along with the usual downed and recruiting notices as well. To share something from your guild (or a bit of drama you've noticed elsewhere), send us an email at guildwatch@wow.com. Read on for more.
DRAMA
- The Penny Arcade guild Annarchy held their second annual CAW event recently -- I remember seeing the Bears vs. Minefield video last month when it happened, but the official blog has many more pictures and info from the get-together. Hilarious stuff, as a bunch of druids run around and just generally cause chaos across the realm.
- Rarely does progression thread drama find its way onto the eyes of a blue, but apparently there's an exception in Europe lately on the Darkmoon Faire server. When C O R E started causing problems in the unofficial guild progression thread over there, they started mixing it up with a few other guilds, and eventually things got so bad that they started a "real version" progression thread, conveniently listing themselves as server firsts. Eventually, the server called in EU CM Vaneras, and he actually responds, saying that they're shutting down both threads, and that the server should solve problems on their own. The Dedicated Few also grabs some aggro, and it translates on over to their recruiting thread as well.
- Phalyrus on Winterhoof took a few PuGs along to a raid lately, and decided to distribute the loot in some, err, "creative" ways. But they're unrepentant, and the flamewar that ensues is definitely worth a read -- their ninja victim even gets into it more than once. One of the Phalyrus guys has a gift for one-liners, too: "Now go along and play in traffic, meanwhile we'll ninja as many items out of naxx as we and our "garbage" leadership want to. Have a nice day baddie!" Classy.
- Evylis, a blood elf paladin formerly of Kalimdor Cut Throats on Argent Dawn was lucky enough to pick up his 30th Fragment of Val'anyr... and promptly transferred off the server. He knew exactly what he was doing, too: after the transfer, he hung out in trade on an unguilded alt and bragged all about it. His alt's name is Elindine, we're told, so if that name happens to appear in your guild applications, keep on eye on just who your Val'anyr fragments are going to.
- Soul Hunters on EU Darkspear fell apart recently, but it was worth it -- they provided us with this incredible forum thread full of guild infighting and, well, most of the reasons they probably fell apart in the first place. Apparently Argelix decided to leave the game and passed leadership of the guild to Manathrall, who, instead of taking care of the new guild he got, decided instead to disband it and leave with his friends to DOA. Of course, he also decided to move the guild bank off to "a guild whose ideology I very firmly believe in," which is pretty convenient for him. Good times. Make sure to read that forum thread while you can, because odds are that it might disappear or be locked off their forums after too long.
- Primal Might was the number 3 guild on Antonidas, and they are now gone after a flurry of /gquits. We hear the raid leader split down for a new guild called Incarnaté and took most of the raiding team with him. Meanwhile, the former GM Sacrates took his Val'anyr shards off the server to another guild, who apparently helped him get the mace together. Sounds like just a good old fashioned meltdown, and their website says as much.
- Endless Fury on Nagrand has reportedly been stealing all kinds of things from other guilds' websites, from designs to raiding dates and strategies. BloodSworn claims they were victims, and one of their members wrote up a pretty clear guide to what they think was taken from them. Of course EF laughs off the accusations (as you can see above), but that doesn't keep them from saying that yes, they'll take any geared guildies that come along, without any respect at all to the guild that sends them. Being number one on the server gives you license to be a total jerk, right?
- Finally, here's a cool Ulduar video from Invalid Target on Bladefist. Watch and enjoy.
- Onslaught of Vashj picked up server first of Anub'arak on their server. Congrats!
- Harmful of Drenden-A is a brand new guild devoted exclusively to 10-man raiding, and on their second night together ever, they downed Sarth 3D, and then cleared out Trial of the Crusader right after that. Ulduar hard modes and Heroic ToC are where they're headed next.
- Horatii (Dethecus) is a semi-casual guild who's been around for jus shy of five years. They've recently cleared out ToC 25, moving up to #9 on the progression list for the server. Congrats! They're also recruiting -- a ranged DPS, druid tanks, and some priest or pally heals.
- Aggro My Own Vegetables of EU Chromaggus did a full clear of ToC10 Normal in their first week of having all bosses in the game. Yoggy's on notice for next time!
- Virtue, Horde side on Cenarion Circle, has cleared out Ulduar 10 up to Yogg Saron, finishing off the General in just one shot. They also cleared out ToC 10-man. Next up: heroic!
- The Inquisition (EU Alonsus) dropped Mimiron in Ulduar 10. Over in 25-man Ignis got finished off, along with the Siege of Ulduar. They're also recruiting: if you're interested in joining a casual guild, look them up on the website.
- Intrigue (Lightninghoof) just got their first guild kill of Auriaya 25 this week. They're also seeking a few more raiders, specifically those who can attend raids Tuesday, Wednesday and Sunday in the evenings EST.
- Judgement of the Fallen over at Haomarush have recently managed to down Flame Leviathan, Razorscale, XT-002 Kologarn and Ignis (though the last one gave them some trouble). The rest of the instance will be down soon.
- The Alphabetical Order (winner of this week's Best Guild Name award) on Nesingwary killed Yogg Saron the other night. They are are strictly a 10-man raiding guild and feel that this is a great accomplishment. And they're right!
- Team Pain Train is one of the oldest guilds on one of the oldest PVP servers, Stormreaver. They just started raiding together again in Wrath, and have already downed Yogg 25. Sarth 3D is down as well, and they're recruiting some ranged caster DPS for Ulduar and ToC 25.
- Sharlyntria, the guildmaster of Sorrow on Dreadmaul finally got his hands on Val'Anyr, Hammer of the Ancient Kings, after two weeks of trying. Ulduar is now fully cleared, they say, and it's now Coliseum full time.
- We Know Stuff and Grog n Tar, Horde guilds on Hellscream that go way back (that's their picture above), joined forces once again to defeat Anub'arak on 10-man Coliseum the first week he was available. They didn't get him down, but they did do VoA 10 and take out Malygos. Grats!
- Devotion (Bronzebeard-A) has downed Trial of the Crusader 10-man. Heroic mode is next!
- Raiders of the Night on Anvilmar have been rolling -- they're in ToC right now and have cleared most of Ulduar. Their GM wants to send a big "thank you and good job" to all of the guild's officers and members. Consider it done.
- Tenacity on Boulderfist went into Ulduar and took down both Flame Leviathan and XT with not too much difficulty, and then finally, after what seemed like a million attempts, took down Kologarn. They even did it with all of their non-healers wearing plate, so they're definitely recruiting all ranged DPS and healers. They're eventually headed to 25-mans, and we wish them luck!
- Who Pulled of Hakkar downed ToC 10-man normal. Grats!
- Try Again Later, an Alliance guild on Alleria, finally downed Yogg 10-man after only a few weeks existence. They've also finished off Northrend Beasts and Jaraxxus as well. Way to go!
- After narrowly missing server first on the normal ToC 10 clear, Risen of Proudmoore picked up server first on the Heroic 10-man clear, as well as the server first Tribute to Insanity. Grats!
- Tunnel Vision on Blackwing Lair-A won a very close race to the server first 25-man kill of Algalon the Observer.
- Convenant on Anachronos formed up from another guild just four weeks ago, but they're already 12/14 in Ulduar 10, as well as clearing out ToC 10. Congrats!
- Order of Elune on Sisters of Elune is a new guild looking to start up 10-man progression. We accept anyone of any level, just hop on by and ask to join!
- Prodigy on the EU Alonsus realm downed Mimiron 10 in the middle of last month. They're recruiting for all classes to expand up into 25-man raiding. If you're interested in a friendly and fun knowledgeable guild that raids Wednesday to Sunday starting at 8pm server time, see them out on their website.
- Deterrence on Hyjal is currently seeking active raiders to fill their 25-man raids. They are a guild of friendly mature people who enjoy seeing end-game content and doing anything else the game has to offer. They are currently working on Trial of the Grand Crusader 10-man and Ulduar hard modes. DPS is the primary need, but any exceptional player is welcome to apply.
- The Dailie Grind on Echo Isle is recruiting -- they're nearly a month old and growing every day. They're casually raiding, splitting up real life and raiding time with equal priority. They're also interested in helping with achievements, leveling, PvP, and just hanging out, so if you're looking for a nice, casual, growing guild, they're just for you.
- Twinks of the World (Perenolde-A) is now recruiting, you guessed it, twinks who know their classes and are well geared. All classes are welcome, though flag carriers and healers are especially needed.
- Catalyst on Shu'Halo is recruiting lvl 65+. They're not a raiding guild, they say: they're a guild that raids. Cute. They'll help you level and gear all the way up to ToC, as well as running other raids and heroics daily, so if you want a varied look at how to work your way through the game, they sound like they'll help.
- Chaotic Neutral, on Nordrassil, is recruiting. They've cleared out Ulduar and are working on ToC, but they're a little short on members, especially for 25-mans, so they're seeking mature players interested in progressing. Specifically, they need rogues, hunters, warriors, warlocks, shaman, shadow priests, and boomkin and other druids. Mages, pallys and DKs are full up. Apply at the website if interested.
- Deus Ex on Lightninghoof-A is a mature late-night raiding guild looking for more raiders. They're working on Ulduar and ToC 25-mans, with 10-man farming on weekends. Please be serious and ready to put the time commitment in -- if you feel like you can make a contribution, apply on the website. All strong applications are considered, and all raid spots are competitive, though nothing is guaranteed.
- Valkyrie is recruiting on Cenarion Circle-A -- they have cleared out most of Ulduar's hard modes and 25-man ToC, but they still have spots available for skilled and dedicated raiders who are not excessively obnoxious.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Fan stuff, Guilds, Odds and ends, Instances, Humor, Raiding, Guildwatch






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Gnosh Sep 30th 2009 3:20PM
You guys should be using non-breaking spaces inside words for spaced guild names (Like C O R E).
Deadly. Off. Topic. Sep 30th 2009 3:34PM
It's still plagiarism if you're stealing something that someone else wrote and claiming it for yourself. Internet or not, that meaning hasn't changed... it's just easier to be a jerk and a thief.
Joshua Meadows Sep 30th 2009 3:55PM
Yeah, this. It's still copyrighted, which means reposting in full or claiming it as your own isn't just douchy, it's infringement.
Maybe Ravenmeow should introduce those guys to the DMCA, via their ISP/webhost.
foe Sep 30th 2009 6:16PM
If anybody remembers the Nagrand Progression Forum that wow.com did a couple of months ago, I believe this is Morganim's Death Knight. Interesting to see him back again.
forbizzl3 Sep 30th 2009 7:41PM
go to youtube and search for tankspot. There, every guide ever needed.
He's claiming that the points were copied, but the claims seem unfounded. Why would a guild that's further along copy notes from someone else?
Also, who the hell argues about Freya strats. I feel bad for your realm :(
Antkins Sep 30th 2009 9:28PM
well in all honesty, when 2 ex officer / raid leaders (sucking upto Ravenmeow) fed this other guild our strats for months, why would you draw this attention to yourself?
Sichas Sep 30th 2009 3:38PM
Wow @ Soul Hunters....what a jerk to just disband that guild without consulting the majority of player base. However, I do wonder why the reins were given to him. If the GM was finished with the guild, instead of just trying to pass it off quickly, he should have just made a quick level 1 alt and promoted it to GM. Not hard to do. Then when someone steps up to the plate, go for it.
80% old GM's fault, which he admits on the forum.
Kelsey Sep 30th 2009 3:47PM
Yeah, but it seems as if the old GM thought Manathrall was legitimately interested in running the guild. If Manathrall had been up-front about his intention to join a new guild, the old GM could have given it to an alt, as you said, or to another guildie. As it was, Manathrall lied about wanting to take responsibility for the guild and instead treated all the other members like crap. At least it sounds like he's getting the derision he deserves on the forum.
CTD Sep 30th 2009 3:55PM
It was a bad judgement call by the old GM. Quite obviously, he handed the guild to someone he thought was trustworthy and was completely blindsided by this.
On the other hand, the /gdisband was a 100% deliberate jerk-move of ridiculous proportions. To lay the majority of the blame on the former GM is quite frankly ludicrous.
Randolyn Sep 30th 2009 4:40PM
Yep, it's rather obvious that Manathrall (and now Arcañus) is a world-class, gold-medal-clinching, Guinness-world-record-setting douchebag.
Sichas Sep 30th 2009 7:04PM
I'm sorry guys I wasn't clear with my argument. Yes, Mana is completely to blame for the /disband. My 80% fault of the GM comment was that it was 80% his fault the situation arose in the first place. 20% would obviously be the lieing douche.
JLocke Sep 30th 2009 3:53PM
The Soul Hunters thing was nuts, yes it was partially the former GM's fault, but obviously they trusted wrong sadly. Disbanding a guild with just 2 hours into leadership is a cold move, no amount of fancy word play or explanations can save his sorry butt. Plus claiming the guild bank was rightfully his was a riot.
A guild may be part of the game, but there are real people behind those tiny avatar. To leave most who were unaware high and dry is a pretty low act.
/end rant
L33T15T Sep 30th 2009 3:58PM
Awesome. That Soul Hunters thread was truly epic. So much QQ from a former guild leader.
I have to say I agree with the person who took the guild over. Personally, I would have handled it differently. But ownership was handed over to him and he made the call. Of course the employees aren't going to like it, but all the QQ "i will miss my friends" is soooooo drama. I'd say if they want to continue the guild, it's pretty darned easy to get 10 sigs and re-up it. ... and if they can't get 10 sigs from their former guildees, I think that justifies the decision to disband even more.
/facepalm the QQ'ers.
Paul Sep 30th 2009 4:01PM
Regarding WKS and GNT, that line is a little... confusing.
Still, grats guys!
allgebra Sep 30th 2009 4:02PM
So, it looks like our entry under "downed" got a little butchered in the editing process. I'm from We Know Stuff, and we did indeed get Anub down in 10man ToCr. We tried heroic mode too ...and that's where we failed to get a win. I'm not sure why it says "(that's their picture above)" ...I did submit a screenshot, but obviously it's not there in the post :)
I know it's not a big deal - but I wanted the world to know that we did finish the Coliseum successfully! hahaha
Mikhail Sep 30th 2009 8:51PM
Is it just me or in an early line talking about "her stealing something from her guild and posting it on HIS site" does the gender of said member change?
mariachi Sep 30th 2009 6:10PM
What a Class-A Epic Jerk this Manathrall! And he even tries to justify his actions, which makes it even more fun.
impurezero Sep 30th 2009 6:21PM
The guy that disbanded SH is full of it. The reasons he claims he did it:
1) A lot of people were leaving anyway.
2) The majority of the raiding team are coming with him to his new guild.
If both of those things were honestly true, then wouldn't the end result have been the same if he had done nothing? He'd have the loyal raiders with him and everyone else would have left on their own.
What a transparent excuse for a bank robbery.
shaman1 Sep 30th 2009 6:40PM
I love the final brass tacks Mana tries to throw at the end of the threads in that the 'guildbank is his....get over it'. You got a lot of hard amounts of smack coming to you for that reasoning.
Name change alone suggests he knows exactly what everyone is going to think of this.
What a grade A douche.
Jay Sep 30th 2009 8:32PM
Honestly that's Endless Fury for you. BoE's are master looted to themselves when they pug, and then they make joke about it in /2 and try to sell it. They're a pox on Nagrand honestly and i'm sure im not the only one who thinks so.