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10-05-2009 @ 1:13PM
What is done is done.This is why it is better to just pull the plug from your PC and go out for a movie or a drink.But I really mean turn off the PC directly, even during a raid.Sleep over it a couple of days and come back. Pretend your ISP has been crappy for a couple of days and all is fine and you had a couple of days off the game. Emotional decisions are the worst. It is always better to sleep over them a couple of days. If things are still bad the same then it is the right decision to bail.
10-05-2009 @ 1:16PM
A couple of days.What he said.
10-05-2009 @ 1:21PM
No. It's never the right decision to bail in a raid and pulling the plug or making fake excuses is for immature kids. Get through the raid. Take some time off and just say "Hey, I need some time off, not raiding this week." Don't pull the plug, lie about your ISP or any of that juvenile crap - stand up, be an adult. Jeez....
10-05-2009 @ 1:47PM
Sometimes though, you just HAVE to "d/c" though - it's NOT about being an adult or not. And yes that is selfish, but for self-preservation, it's the only way otherwise you end up yelling at people. I remember a guild run that had me in tears so that I was forced to shut my computer down - something I never did before. And you want to know why? The guild people were being selfish assholes. They knew my main was a tank and I had successfully tanked several instances for them. But they wanted a healer and when they couldn't get one they started claiming that I "sucked" on tanking and that I was suppose to heal for them instead. This is after I saved them from several bad pulls their hunter and "main" warrior tank would often made. They went so far as to lie to (what was my best friend at the time) so that she "could break it easy" for me that I "couldn't tank". Now, why would I want to stay in a run to heal for people who lied to me just to get me to heal for them. The next day I left that guild and immediately was asked to join a guild who valued my tanking skills and who had seen me in action. The funny thing is, my so called best friend will now ask me to tank instances for her... and admits that she was lied to by the guild .I had already lost it at that point, so sticking around would have done what for me? Get me guilted and lied to more? No thanks. I rather be considered a child and have my mental health in tact than be forced to help ungrateful jerks through 3 hours of my time.
10-05-2009 @ 2:07PM
On the contrary ! Shutting down the PC and putting your absence on the ISP's account is a very mature thing to do. The alternative is bursting out during the raid and being miserable. And make no mistake, this is a one time thing. You'd lose credibility if you do this every other week.It is a big deal to leave your guild, a guild in which you may have invested countless hours. Taking 2 days off the game to cool down is the best thing you can do. No emotional decision. This is certainly not a juvenile decision, specially if you are an officer of the guild.
10-05-2009 @ 2:22PM
@ClevinsI disagree. The need for a cooldown is not juvenile at all, it is rather very human. Have you ever been in a relationship and become so angry that you either walk away for a couple of hours or stand there and say things which you will ultimately regret for a long time? It's the exact same mechanic.If you're angry enough, you WILL do and say things you don't want to say. This exists in ALL human beings, regardless of age. If you reach that point of anger or frustration, just logging off is the best way to deal with it. And if you feel that people wont understand your reasons (many people seem to lack a certain understanding about how people actually work), why not just lie about it?After all, it's a victimless lie.
10-05-2009 @ 2:36PM
I have to agree. Sorry to say, but indeed this is a game. If this were a job I would say you need to stick with it, and deal with it later. However, this IS a game. If at any point it is not fun, you should (and do have by all means) the right to say, "Guys I am out. Maybe next time."I think all too often people forget that this is an escape from real-life (for most of us). Now I will say that I do try to make a situation fly...but I refuse to argue at some point.And for all of those players that don't agree with me, and take the game a bit too seriously..... while you are trying to point out that WoW is important and how it is serious buis... **Bravofox quickly types /camp ** (hard to argue with that)
10-05-2009 @ 3:01PM
my Mental health > your phat lootzSometimes you just have to walk away in the middle of a raid. Is it a good thing to habitually? No. Is it something that has to be done sometimes? Definately.
10-05-2009 @ 3:43PM
I don't think you have to lie, necessarily. Unplug your router, then say it was a power failure. No lie, just not the whole truth, and you can be busy for a couple days. Again, no need to lie when you need a break.
10-05-2009 @ 3:51PM
It certainly looks like this situation would have been improved by a plug pull. Personally, I would think it to be better still to make an excuse and leave so your group isn't waiting around to see if you're coming back. But both are preferable to Clevin's suggestion, as sticking around and toughing it out is what caused the letter writer to snap.
10-05-2009 @ 6:33PM
@ClevinsI've done the whole "I need a break" thing when I got burned out from raiding 5-6 days a week in BC, for over 6 months straight--to the point that I planned holidays/leave/personal engagements around my guild's needs. When I was getting ready to come back, my guild officers held a coup d'état and the guild fell apart that weekend. We were solid performers in the top teens of progression on our realm. The members who /gquit formed up into another guild that lasted roughly a month...soon thereafter the mass exodus via server transfers happened.Based on past experience, I'd recommend just pulling the plug and walking away. I've done it in raids in Wrath when I just can't take the piss-poor players wiping to stupid stuff any longer (from previous solid performers in the same group). No one has to know but you, and I'm sure there's someone out there very willing to fill the group's empty spots.
10-05-2009 @ 11:56PM
@ HansboA victimless lie? When the person/people you lied to find out you lied, just ask them if they consider it a victimless lie... Sounds like a good way to lose even more trust to me.
10-06-2009 @ 10:14AM
Don't unplug your computer in the middle of a raid, I had a power outage happen once in the middle of a raid, it crashed my OS and I had to reinstall every on my HD, took three days to get back online...
10-06-2009 @ 3:31PM
Back when Kara was hard, I was in a group as a healer. We had just downed The Curator and for the first time EVER - the priest/warrior/druid token drops. I was ecstatic to even get a chance to roll on them. Instead, my guild leader/main tank took them with the reasoning of "tanks get gear first." I got really upset at it, said a few.. unchoice words, but dropped it after 5 minutes. I wanted to finish the group, get what loot I could and get out of there.Instead, someone else in the group decided to continually berate me in whispers, purposely trying to make me angry (ok, angrier). I was already angry, and his words just pushed me over the edge. I ended up screaming, quite literally, at the group over vent. I wish I would have just pulled the plug, but I use to have a thing about seeing groups through to the end - even if it made me want to break things. Just because there's distance between me and another player does not give either party the right to treat the other like shit. For all you know, the other person might be having an epicly bad day and they're trying to relax in game. You being a douche is only going to make the day worse. The Golden Rule applies online as much as it does IRL - if not moreso.Plug pulls are definitely justified in some cases. Not all, no, but definitely in some.
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