Garrosh, a raid boss?

by Mike Schramm Oct 9th 2009 at 9:00AM

I don't necessarily agree with everything we highlight here on WoW.com, but just because a post seems wrong doesn't mean it isn't interesting to talk about. Such is the case with Loregy's latest post -- they suggest that after all is said and done, the much beloved (whoops, not) Garrosh Hellscream will end up at the wrong end of our weapons. They say that the big fight between Garrosh and Thrall (rudely interrupted by the Wrath of the Lich King) means that Garrosh is in for a whooping at some future point. Matt basically said as much in his post a while back -- Garrosh is a flawed hero, to say the least, and it's likely that sometime here, those flaws are going to catch up with him, possibly in the form of us players.

Now of course whether that's true or not is an entirely different question from whether that's what you want or not. Kisirani has already said that there are sides of Garrosh we haven't seen yet, and Blizzard could go either way with him -- either put him through some troubles and teach him to learn some lessons (right now the guy is pretty dumb), or do what Loregy is suggesting and turn him into a raid boss (wouldn't be the first faction leader with such a fate, to be honest). Personally, I think Garrosh is headed for a little redemption -- all he really needs, to my mind, is a little experience and humility, and, as I understand it, war can teach those pretty well.

Tags: blizzard, blood-and-thunder, dumb, experience, fight, garrosh, garrosh-hellscream, horde, humility, loregy, players, raid-boss, speculation, thrall, whooping

Filed under: Horde, Orcs, Analysis / Opinion, Fan stuff, Virtual selves, Odds and ends, Blizzard, Lore, NPCs

Reader Comments (Page 3 of 4)

Hal Oct 9th 2009 9:35AM

Hm . . . let's say he becomes a raid boss. Is this a faction specific raid? Like, is it only for Horde or Alliance? Or do both get to? If it's the latter, what is the other faction's motivation?

Or perhaps Garrosh becomes a "faction specific" raid boss, with the other side getting a likewise counterpart as a raid boss. Oh, the possibilities . . . Varian finally gets a little humility smacked into him? You kick Mekkatorque's butt until he agrees to march back into Gnomeregan? Perhaps a Bronzebeard has decided to step too far out of line? Very interesting possibilities.

peagle Oct 9th 2009 9:37AM

Special abilities: Every sentence Garrosh says ending with an exclamation mark causes 500K raid wide damage.

nekoali Oct 9th 2009 10:02AM

I disagree with the 'Flawed Hero' concept as regards to Garrosh. As of now, he's done absolutely nothing heroic. He's gone from whining about how violent and terrible his father was and how he didn't want to live up to those standards to doing his absolute best to live up to those violent and terrible standards to the point of extreme stupidity.

Yes, the day Garrosh becomes Warchief, all of my Horde people will be quietly stepping out of Orgrimmar when the attack notices start pouring in, and all my Alliance people will be lining up to play 'Whack A Jerk'.

perderedeus Oct 9th 2009 9:44AM

Thrall is my Warchief.

Even if Garrosh does a 180 personality wise, I may come to respect him, but I will not ever, EVER revere him. I will, however, /cheer when the Alliance come to put the hurt on Garrosh, because obviously it's a-whoopin' he's a-wantin'.

Mike Schramm Oct 9th 2009 10:49AM

"Thrall is my Warchief."

This belongs on a t-shirt!

Gneiss Oct 9th 2009 9:49AM

"...there are sides to Garrosh we haven't seen yet"

Yes - his insides when we gut him.

brasilnut13 Oct 9th 2009 10:09AM

I was plaing Halo 3 ODST the other day and I sware to god I heard a brute say "BLOOD AND THUNDER!!!!!" I lol' d for like 10min then I thought bungie must have sum wow players

traptinacivicsi Oct 9th 2009 1:01PM

It doesn't stop there, they also yell 'For the Covenant!' and 'For Glory!" noticed it too... :)

I-R-PALADIN? Oct 9th 2009 10:17AM

i said this b4 but i think garrosh is going to reedeem himself like his father did when he killed mannoroth it would make sence cuz that theam has been used many times in other stories.

Khremloc Oct 9th 2009 10:29AM

Something along the lines of the Conquest Hold questline would do nicely. :)

bob Oct 9th 2009 10:30AM

Garrosh only sees war and conquest, for the glory of the Horde. He has no conception of the tragedy the comes about when you take that world view too far, as his father did. I can easily see him turning to the Legion in to get the strength he thinks he needs to defeat Deathwing.

The martial culture serves a defensive purpose when the world is constantly set upon by larger than life, otherworldly threats. But if that martial ambition isn't tempered with a sense of honor and an understanding of the horrible lengths it can bring a man to, then the end it's followers will meet is inevitable. They will always seek power the need to defeat their enemies; but when the threat they sought to vanquish is gone, and only the quest for power remains they will seek power for the glory of power.

The honor I'm talking about here is to see the need for the martial culture, but at the same time to see the limits it must act within. To wield the sword for the sake of your people, not for the sake of the sword. To truly act with honor the martial instinct must be tempered with limits. There are things you must not do. Lengths you cannot go to. For in the end it is better by far to die with honor than live with glory. Glory is the fleeting self importance found through winning at any cost, and it will vanish when death comes as it must to us all. Honor can sustain a people for a thousand years and more.

Garrosh lacks the sense of honor that is necessary to temper the lust for glory. It is a lesson he failed to take from his father, and it will ultimately be his undoing.

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