All the World's a Stage: So you want to raise up the shadows of doom
Today, All the World's a Stage concludes a series on "how to be evil," bringing the bad guy back into your fantasy roleplaying, complete with ideas, methods, warnings, and practical examples. Be sure to check out steps 1-3, steps 4-6, and steps 7 and 8 on the path to evil!
Your friends keep telling you, "you can't play Arthas, man! Nobody's going to believe that your little human death knight is actually the Lich King in disguise. Get real!" But your idea just won't go away. You admit that creating a human death knight named "Ahrrthyss" might not be the best way to go about it, but you're in this guild which is devoted to fighting the Scourge, and you want Arthas to be a part of your story, not just an NPC who shows up in some quests and at the end of a raid.
We've already discussed a number of ways to be a villain in WoW – so you look at them to see if you can get one of them to work for you: The most obvious is to just start a new character and designate it to be one of your guild's antagonists, but the problem here is that making Arthas as an actual player character is way too Mary Sue. Such a tactic usually only works for very subtle villains (more like flawed heroes really), or for short-term possession, and your guild has done 3 "possessed by the Lich King's power" type stories already. You need something new! Another choice is to create a disposable villain, perhaps, some agent of the Lich King, which could be interesting, but still doesn't put you in touch with Arthas himself.
But there is another way, which many people have not thought of: to put the villain entirely in the shadows of the background, let him never actually be seen, but let his effects be felt based on what happens to the heroes. Arthas can indeed play a huge role in your story, without ever having to appear in person. It has been done to great effect before, even in novels. Sauron, anyone?
Step 9: Villains in the shadows
The Lord of the Rings was arguably the one novel that defined modern fantasy literature. The main villain in that story is named Sauron, and he proved that a bad guy doesn't even need to appear once in the story for him to be totally awesome and scary. In the movie, Sauron makes a short appearance, but we never see his face. Most of the time after that, he's just pictured as a giant eye wreathed in flame. He doesn't need to actually do or say anything himself because most of what he says is simply reported by others. He is much scarier in his silence than he would be in the flesh.
In your roleplaying circles, Arthas, or any other awesome villain you might choose, would also be much scarier if you apply the same technique: let their villainy be felt based on what happens to you. This might be the one way to get away with choosing a villain from somewhere in the lore without also looking like a Mary Sue, as long as his actions and intentions for you and your guild are peripheral to the overall lore storyline the developers of the game are working on. It's important to remember that your goal is not to thrust yourselves to the center of the Warcraft universe and claim to have brought down the villain once and for all, rather, you want some encounter with him that strengthens your group's antagonistic relationship with him.
Step 9a: A shadow villain example
So for example, let's say you decide that Arthas is going to be your enemy, but he's never going to appear in person, only his minions are going to do things to you, and then only in ways you can either report second hand, or actually make happen in the game. Suppose that you are killing ghouls one day, just questing by yourself, and you come across a weapon that looks particularly scary. You may decide that this is one of many cursed weapons Arthas has scattered about the battlefield in order to corrupt otherwise good heroes the same way that Frostmourne itself helped to corrupt him. You tell your friends about your new find and how cool it is, and then slowly over time, show them how your character is growing more and more driven, losing his sense of morality in achieving his goals.
Now, at this stage you might be thinking, "Bah! That's just another possession story!" and you'd be partially right. But the purpose here is not to draw out your character's possession and start channeling the voice of the Lich King and all that. We're just creating a story hook to show the effect of the Lich King on our lives and enlist the support of your friends to get involved in the story, trying to protect your character. The actual "possession" part is just about finished already.
So now your character reports his strong compulsion to meet with certain "wise teachers" who have promised him power beyond recognition if he will only submit to a certain ritual at a certain place your friends know to be an evil location. From there, you either find a place where you can sit there surrounded by enemy NPCs, supposedly waiting to undergo this dark ritual, or you get one or more of your friends (not the ones who will not be saving you) to make some low-level warlock alts (or whatever sort of disposable villains you like) and then summon them to the site where you want them to start the ritual. If you've chosen the NPC route, then your friends just come along, beat up the enemies, and take you away from there. Make sure they roleplay taking the weapon away too. If you chose the low-level alt route, then you can say there is some sort of protective shield around the ceremony (I know it sounds corny but these things are everywhere in fantasy fiction, so I think it's okay), and force your friends to talk or otherwise roleplay you to safety somehow. Make sure there is a way and that it is not ridiculously obscure or hard to figure out. Once it's finished, and your cursed weapon is taken away, then congratulate yourself on an excellent adventure.
That's it, you ask? Yep! Not every adventure needs to last for months and months. Sometimes it's okay to let it last a couple weeks. Once you're done with one adventure, you can think of another – Perhaps that cursed weapon keeps on corrupting the thoughts of anyone nearby, and it can only be destroyed with a special ritual that is almost as dangerous as keeping the darn thing around.
Additional thoughts
Another thing to remember is that your freedom to report the evil deeds of your favorite villain increases a great deal if you use a "guild hall" type of technique, where your roleplaying group shares some sort of chat channel as its own roleplaying environment, apart from whatever else you and your character are doing in the game. This would allow you to describe the actions of your unseen villain in more detail: you could describe banshees breaking into the guild hall and trying to shatter your minds with their scream, or describe the evil tell-tale mannerisms people have while under the influence of the cursed weapon without actually having to get everyone into the same place as you. It's not necessary to have a "guild hall" channel, but it helps a lot.
And that's it for now! If you have more ideas and suggestions for how to play a good bad guy, be sure to write them down in the comments below, and let everyone behold the depth of your evil genius.
All the World's a Stage is your source for roleplaying ideas, innovations, and ironies -- we have a lot of ways to help you get started with new characters. Whether you want to start a new goblin or worgen, or play any one of the new race and class combinations, (or even any of the old ones) as you level up in the new world after the Cataclysm, there are lots of ways to get started roleplaying a new character.
Your friends keep telling you, "you can't play Arthas, man! Nobody's going to believe that your little human death knight is actually the Lich King in disguise. Get real!" But your idea just won't go away. You admit that creating a human death knight named "Ahrrthyss" might not be the best way to go about it, but you're in this guild which is devoted to fighting the Scourge, and you want Arthas to be a part of your story, not just an NPC who shows up in some quests and at the end of a raid.
We've already discussed a number of ways to be a villain in WoW – so you look at them to see if you can get one of them to work for you: The most obvious is to just start a new character and designate it to be one of your guild's antagonists, but the problem here is that making Arthas as an actual player character is way too Mary Sue. Such a tactic usually only works for very subtle villains (more like flawed heroes really), or for short-term possession, and your guild has done 3 "possessed by the Lich King's power" type stories already. You need something new! Another choice is to create a disposable villain, perhaps, some agent of the Lich King, which could be interesting, but still doesn't put you in touch with Arthas himself.
But there is another way, which many people have not thought of: to put the villain entirely in the shadows of the background, let him never actually be seen, but let his effects be felt based on what happens to the heroes. Arthas can indeed play a huge role in your story, without ever having to appear in person. It has been done to great effect before, even in novels. Sauron, anyone?
Step 9: Villains in the shadows
The Lord of the Rings was arguably the one novel that defined modern fantasy literature. The main villain in that story is named Sauron, and he proved that a bad guy doesn't even need to appear once in the story for him to be totally awesome and scary. In the movie, Sauron makes a short appearance, but we never see his face. Most of the time after that, he's just pictured as a giant eye wreathed in flame. He doesn't need to actually do or say anything himself because most of what he says is simply reported by others. He is much scarier in his silence than he would be in the flesh.
In your roleplaying circles, Arthas, or any other awesome villain you might choose, would also be much scarier if you apply the same technique: let their villainy be felt based on what happens to you. This might be the one way to get away with choosing a villain from somewhere in the lore without also looking like a Mary Sue, as long as his actions and intentions for you and your guild are peripheral to the overall lore storyline the developers of the game are working on. It's important to remember that your goal is not to thrust yourselves to the center of the Warcraft universe and claim to have brought down the villain once and for all, rather, you want some encounter with him that strengthens your group's antagonistic relationship with him.
Step 9a: A shadow villain example
So for example, let's say you decide that Arthas is going to be your enemy, but he's never going to appear in person, only his minions are going to do things to you, and then only in ways you can either report second hand, or actually make happen in the game. Suppose that you are killing ghouls one day, just questing by yourself, and you come across a weapon that looks particularly scary. You may decide that this is one of many cursed weapons Arthas has scattered about the battlefield in order to corrupt otherwise good heroes the same way that Frostmourne itself helped to corrupt him. You tell your friends about your new find and how cool it is, and then slowly over time, show them how your character is growing more and more driven, losing his sense of morality in achieving his goals.
Now, at this stage you might be thinking, "Bah! That's just another possession story!" and you'd be partially right. But the purpose here is not to draw out your character's possession and start channeling the voice of the Lich King and all that. We're just creating a story hook to show the effect of the Lich King on our lives and enlist the support of your friends to get involved in the story, trying to protect your character. The actual "possession" part is just about finished already.
So now your character reports his strong compulsion to meet with certain "wise teachers" who have promised him power beyond recognition if he will only submit to a certain ritual at a certain place your friends know to be an evil location. From there, you either find a place where you can sit there surrounded by enemy NPCs, supposedly waiting to undergo this dark ritual, or you get one or more of your friends (not the ones who will not be saving you) to make some low-level warlock alts (or whatever sort of disposable villains you like) and then summon them to the site where you want them to start the ritual. If you've chosen the NPC route, then your friends just come along, beat up the enemies, and take you away from there. Make sure they roleplay taking the weapon away too. If you chose the low-level alt route, then you can say there is some sort of protective shield around the ceremony (I know it sounds corny but these things are everywhere in fantasy fiction, so I think it's okay), and force your friends to talk or otherwise roleplay you to safety somehow. Make sure there is a way and that it is not ridiculously obscure or hard to figure out. Once it's finished, and your cursed weapon is taken away, then congratulate yourself on an excellent adventure.
That's it, you ask? Yep! Not every adventure needs to last for months and months. Sometimes it's okay to let it last a couple weeks. Once you're done with one adventure, you can think of another – Perhaps that cursed weapon keeps on corrupting the thoughts of anyone nearby, and it can only be destroyed with a special ritual that is almost as dangerous as keeping the darn thing around.
Additional thoughts
Another thing to remember is that your freedom to report the evil deeds of your favorite villain increases a great deal if you use a "guild hall" type of technique, where your roleplaying group shares some sort of chat channel as its own roleplaying environment, apart from whatever else you and your character are doing in the game. This would allow you to describe the actions of your unseen villain in more detail: you could describe banshees breaking into the guild hall and trying to shatter your minds with their scream, or describe the evil tell-tale mannerisms people have while under the influence of the cursed weapon without actually having to get everyone into the same place as you. It's not necessary to have a "guild hall" channel, but it helps a lot.
And that's it for now! If you have more ideas and suggestions for how to play a good bad guy, be sure to write them down in the comments below, and let everyone behold the depth of your evil genius.
Filed under: All the World's a Stage (Roleplaying), How-tos, Lore, Bosses, RP, Alts







Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Meethan Oct 12th 2009 4:22PM
The thing with an omnipresent villain is that you don't even have to create him, you can just make characters talk about him. It's not like their more accustomed to being rumors than truth anyways. In such a case though, you will need followers and not just associates which can be a difficult task in itself. Succeeding as a villain is hard no matter how you slice it, but being this myth and a man in the same just strikes fear and curiosity in the hearts of people.
Kai Monture Oct 12th 2009 5:02PM
My Death Knight is named Darthas Vader Menethil. I rolled him for RP and everyone gave me the Mary Sue speech or just flamed me and said I have no RP cred, but I just said screw them. I'm a nerd and a fanboy of both Warcraft and Star Wars and I think it's the most badass name ever.
PeeWee Oct 12th 2009 6:13PM
And the reason for the flaming is that Star Wars has no place in Azeroth. Here, have another Thumb's Down.
Kai Monture Oct 12th 2009 6:49PM
Edit: Darn Reply System!
Ouch. I actually RP seriously on my other characters and I don't mean to offend anyone. I just thought it'd be fun to sort of kick back and not take it so seriously. WoW has a lot of funny pop culture references and Star Wars itself was hilarious in certain parts. I saw a direct parallel in the tragic stories of Arthas Menethil and Anakin Skywalker and since they are both such compelling figures and icons of their respective worlds I thought I'd make a point of it with my character name as a testament to my fanboyism. My character has his own guild called the Red Dawn which is also a reference to the Lord of the Rings and I have a macro'd battle cry on him: "Now for Wrath! Now for Ruin! And the Red Dawn!" from King Theoden's lines. I've partly constructed a back story for him as a member of the Menethil family and a former Argent Dawn member. Since the Light abandoned him when he fell to the Scourge he fights with his rage instead, rage at the Scourge and rage at the Light itself. Hence the "Red Dawn" of rage instead of the "Argent Dawn" of faith.
thebitterfig Oct 12th 2009 5:14PM
I have a hunter who is sort of an RP toon. More of an interesting backstory than anything, really but here it is: He's a traitor to the horde and deep-cover spy for the Explorer's League. He was recruited while young, partly for his love of and talent with ancient languages, and for the appeal that he was greater than the boorish Horde-at-large.
However, the result is I can't talk about it on said hunter. He's a traitor and a spy, and if he brought it up, they'd kill him over it. Still, I'll start every ToC with a /wink to King Wrynn.
Kia Oct 12th 2009 5:19PM
Good writeup. This is sort of how my girlfriend and I did it. She plays my draenei's sister, who was lost in the Exodar crash and just recently found turned into a death knight, giving my character a rather personal interest in taking Arthas down.
Kai Monture Oct 12th 2009 6:47PM
Ouch. I actually RP seriously on my other characters and I don't mean to offend anyone. I just thought it'd be fun to sort of kick back and not take it so seriously. WoW has a lot of funny pop culture references and Star Wars itself was hilarious in certain parts. I saw a direct parallel in the tragic stories of Arthas Menethil and Anakin Skywalker and since they are both such compelling figures and icons of their respective worlds I thought I'd make a point of it with my character name as a testament to my fanboyism. My character has his own guild called the Red Dawn which is also a reference to the Lord of the Rings and I have a macro'd battle cry on him: "Now for Wrath! Now for Ruin! And the Red Dawn!" from King Theoden's lines. I've partly constructed a back story for him as a member of the Menethil family and a former Argent Dawn member. Since the Light abandoned him when he fell to the Scourge he fights with his rage instead, rage at the Scourge and rage at the Light itself. Hence the "Red Dawn" of rage instead of the "Argent Dawn" of faith.
DeathPaladin Oct 12th 2009 7:34PM
This stuff is great for coordinated stories, but I found that having an Antihero, Villain Protagonist, or some other brand of Evil Good Guy brings up cool day-to-day RP situations. The trick is to make that character evil enough to be horrifying, but not so evil as to make people wonder why the others in the guild let him live.
For example, I rolled my Death Knight the first day Wrath hit, and he was actually the first character in my very casual guild to hit 80. He ran a few lower level instances with people, but for the most part it was solo work. While we are not an RP guild, we all tend to assign certain demeanors to our characters. My Death Knight tended towards quiet and brooding (in contrast to my manic party animal of a Paladin). When we got enough people to 80 to run an instance, we ventured into the Halls of Lightning. Since most of them just hit 80, I was the only one out of the 5 of us who had completed the Sons of Hodir quest chain.
When we downed Loken, the generally upbeat druid with love for all the puppies and kittens and bunnies (and bloody vengeance for all who would hurt them) got to watch in disgust and mild horror as this usually reticent man dusted himself off, picked up his serrated blade (I was using the Runeblade of Demonstrable Power), pried open Loken's mouth, and very non-chalantly sawed off his tongue. It didn't help much when I noticed her disgust and casually explained to her that the King of the Frost Giants was paying me to kill Loken, and that he demanded his lying tongue as proof that the deed was done.
It was a fun RP moment for a non-RP guild.
rzlq Oct 13th 2009 7:36AM
To make lore justice: Sauron does appear in person big time. Actually, he was the master of shapeshifting, appearing as a noble man, fearsome dark lord, werewolf, even a bat, not to forget his better known - admittedly rather disembodied - Eye form in LOTR.
DeathPaladin Oct 13th 2009 12:04PM
That is true, however his appearances in person are during the Silmarillion, during which he is not the Big Bad. He graduated from the Morgoth School of Evil Overlords, where your lieutenants and minions can show up all they want, but the Overlord doesn't make a personal appearance unless the heroes come knocking on the front door to the stronghold (and sometimes not even then).
erknost Oct 13th 2009 3:18PM
Hey David, I just love your column!
I have being Narrator (aka Dungeon Master, etc) from several table and forum RPG, like Vampire: The Mascarade, AD&D, Paranoia, LotR among others. I have being playing WoW, for around one and half year, and All the World's a Stage, made me want to role-play again. Currently I play in a PvE server, but I'm playing to start a brand new toon in a RP server. I have been looking A LOT around the net about what US-RP WoW realm has the greatest and friendliest role-playing community, but I have fail until now...
It would be too much to ask, if you can talk with your sources and tell us (your fans and followers) but specially this tiny, lazy and unborn Rogue Gnome which RP (in the US) has the biggest and coolest RP community (if it is possible, mainly in the Alliance side) amount all the PvE and PvP servers?
dokhidamo Oct 14th 2009 5:36PM
An old guild of mine put this to use in very nice ways. The guild was a sort of paladin-run refuge, situated on the border of EPL and NPL (ghostlands). We had common events like skeletons and ghouls accidently running afoul of the consecrated ground, and once had a major event when a frostwyrm attacked. Hard to imagine we had time to get to 70, raid Kara, get to 80, and then mostly fold under pressures of Naxx, right? Well we used a rare feature in RP guilds these days, the 'guild hall system'. Our Guild Chat, which was all IC, took place in the refuge and the surrounding area, none of that cell-phone-hearthstone nonsense guilds use now.
Basically, shameless plug for guilds to use the guild hall system instead of the cell phone system.