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10-13-2009 @ 8:36PM
As a die-hard frost mage, I've stuck to my spec in PvE through all the ups and downs. In PvE, we've been ridiculed for being absolutely terrible with DPS. These changes serve to boost our damage and become more respectable, at least in line with the hybrids.To say that I'm excited would be a severely gross understatement.http://frostisthenewblack.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/3-3-proposed-frost-changes/
10-13-2009 @ 9:18PM
RE: myselfdidn't necessarily mean that the buffs WILL bring them up to hybrid dps levels, but the intention from the devs seem to be the case.
10-13-2009 @ 10:52PM
I feel sorry for those people who have to raid with someone who purposefully sucks with a bad (PVE) spec, when there are better available.No serious raiding could would ever allow it, and it's not exactly recommendable in PUGs either, unless you just outgear the instance to the point where it doesn't matter. It's not just fair towards the people you raid with.I guess it's okay if you play casually with your friends, but otherwise it's just... no.
10-13-2009 @ 11:48PM
RE: Jam: something is only unfair to your raidmates if your performance is below some level relative to the raid encounter, not w/r/t the other specs of the class. If someone isn't bringing what they need to, then that is a problem. If you do what you need to or above it, that's it. Done. Win. Collect Loot.
10-13-2009 @ 11:50PM
@ jam whats a "proper" spec ?eg ive been loving my new 29/42/0 specced priest hybrid (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Frostmourne&n=Volrathy&group=1) with a focus of spamming shields for "preheals" and topping people up with coh and poh burst healing and things. I did 9.2k ehps coming first smashing a holy paladin and 2 resto druids by a long margin during toc 25 on the weekend with a "unproper" spec.Who are you to say what is and what isn't a proper spec ?
10-14-2009 @ 12:09AM
@volrathyIt doesn't matter if you use a bad spec is you do well in raids. However, its near impossible to do well in raids as frost. It's just that bad (its about 25-30% below the other major three).Also, your spec isnt that bad for how you heal (though needs some tweaking). Trade out Englightenment and Mental Strength for 3/3 Emp Renew, and 5/5 Divine Providence and you'll see way more throughput (the current talents you have in disc really aren't giving you much). Drop Serendipity (since you don't use GH), and pick up Holy Conc for some regen.I would still suggest trying a typical disc spec. You don't get the full benefit of shields and im suprised you dont run oom like a some bitch casting all those shields w/o rapture. You will love Borrowed Time / PoH. and penance is awsome.Seriously, try it out. You will need to get used to not having CoH but i feel like you have a Disc playstyle currently.
10-14-2009 @ 12:37AM
@jam: You assume that I am part of some elitist hardcore cutting edge guild. I am not. In fact, My guild is still doing Ulduar, and for our 10's, having no replenishment and nothing but arcane mages and ISB-less locks makes me a shoe-in for raidwide buffs. I also pull my weight with about 3.5-4k dps; it's not that great for my gear level (mostly emblems, 2pcT8, 2pcT9), but it's acceptable for the content that I'm doing.I'm going to respond to your initial comment by saying that I feel sorry for people who feel like they have to spec a certain way just to be accepted into raids, and getting absolutely no enjoyment from it. I'd very much rather be a guildless happy Frost mage than a guilded and disgruntled fire/arcane mage.
10-14-2009 @ 12:45AM
@ charlie.. Englightenment and Mental Strength are required for my spec they are 2 of the main regen talents. Holy conc is pretty bad as my flash heals cant crit they are only being used when surge of light procs. Serendipty is required for the burst healing PoHsHealing goes like this - PW:S (spam) - PW:S glyph crits and procs surge of light - cast instant flash heal on person (stack serendipity). Press CoH every cooldown. Blow off a big serendipity PoH. Keep spamming those shields also PoM whenever possible.Also throw a few insults @ dps cause they aren't using my lolwell.Emp renew why ? Its crap i dont use renew.Have a look at my 2nd spec. I was disc all thru ulduar.
10-14-2009 @ 8:33PM
@Jam:Until you actually play the underdog spec, don't be so jerky about it. I've raided in frost and sure, it doesn't get as much dps as the other specs but the dps I did in frost was perfectly respectable and I got no complaints. Unless you are attempting the absolute hardest of hard modes it's not as bad as it sounds. It's way behind in simulations but it's not as far behind in actual practice.
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