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10-13-2009 @ 6:46PM
You sound a little like an elitist b****h to me in the way you wrote that, the headline supports that opinion.WoW is a really great game but this L2PLY attitude from some people sucks.I will assume this sub-par raider is in your guild, this would mean you should know his capabilities from regular runs, questing together, doing heroics... or are you saying that YOU jeopardised the raid you are running by not actually grouping with him outside the raid first?If you are so hardcore that you expect perfection maybe you should do the right thing by the "9 or people" sic and take a litle care. Cross your t's and dot your i's.Pre-evaluate the skill of the person you invite.Maybe the fault is not the huntard, maybe it is you as raid leader?
10-13-2009 @ 6:59PM
The headline is the lyrics from a song.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ-FAV9fBII
10-13-2009 @ 7:11PM
There's nothing wrong in the slightest with a hunter doing 1.8k dps...As long as they're not in ToC and nine other people are relying on them to do their job properly - which they most definitely are not. It's not being an elitist bitch to expect people to be realistic about their capabilities - I'd be mortified if I was being carried through content. That player should be in 5 man heroics and Naxx 10 - that's the way the game works!
10-13-2009 @ 7:06PM
You must have never been a raid leader. Pre-Evaluate every raid member? Are you insane or just stupid? I can't tell what your argument is, first you say the author is being too harsh on the player, then you say the author shouldn't have invited the player in the first place. And you misspelled Bitch
10-13-2009 @ 7:08PM
Have to laugh at people so insecure about "hey, I might be at fault here" that they vote you down.:PWell, if you can't see "The raid leader should not take an untested player into the hardest raid out. They should be stepped up." then I am glad I am not in your guild.
10-13-2009 @ 7:13PM
Oh come on Dazaras, how hard is it for a raid leader who knows how to lead to actually know how the people in his guild play?Either from actually taking time to group with them outside the raid or asking other people how that person plays? If the guild is large and this task is too hard for you then why would you take that person into the hardest raid possible?As for B****h I used the exact spelling the author of the post used.
10-13-2009 @ 7:25PM
My question would be... did you know ahead of time that you needed 3k DPS? It certainly sounds like the Hunter knew he couldn't pull that. Why was he there in the first place? You did make sure everybody in the group knew what was expected before the invites when out, right? Sounds like if the "average" was 2700, then a few people were below the mark. Who else got replaced? Just the hunter? Was it an easy, epic win once you finally got him out of the group?
10-13-2009 @ 8:14PM
@Jay I, for one, totally agree with you. A progression guild needs to make sure that everyone is progressing, not just the few, the proud, the elite. Rather than take this hunter into an advanced raid and then kicking them because they don't meet your 'expectations', take the time to work with them and find the reasons behind the 'poor' performance. Maybe their gear needs to be upgraded, and in that case, rather than rushing ahead in content so you can keep up with the epeen wavers, run them through some lower stuff and get them geared up. If it's a case of playstyle, then work with them directly, and by directly, I mean you personally. (If you can't play the class to your level of expectations, how can you judge someone else?) If you are unable/unwilling to do that, then act as the liason between them and the person to who you are referring them. Don't just say "Go talk to 1337huntard and beg him to show you the ways of the Force and then when you're done there, go to 'yousuck.com.net.org' and watch all the videos and read all the articles and lrn2play".To quote the last line of the article: Raiding takes practice, (hard to practice when you get kicked out of a raid) study, (experience is the best teacher, which brings us back to letting them raid) and perseverance. (sounds like they were showing perseverance, they hung in there and kept trying... that is, before they got kicked)
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