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10-20-2009 @ 7:12PM
I'm gonna disagree with #15. Back before 3.1, when guilds would mention that they had Sarth 3d down while recruiting, and I was still playing a feral tank me and some friends ventured into Naxx. Despite all of us having the most baseline gear needed for naxx10, we got to KT with minimal difficulties... aside from KT himself. 2nd attempt we lost everyone except for myself (OT) and our healer (I believe it was a holy pally, but can't quite remember). A wipe was called, but I picked up KT and the healer managed to keep me up through both KT and his adds for quite a while. I finally went down when KT was sitting at around 25k health. While #15 is correct in saying that we held up the raid, the fact that we got so close to downing KT with nothing but a tank and healer, and how the rest of our raid was cheering us on (I still remember being called a "beast of a tank" after we lost, even though all props go to the healer) makes me less likely to follow it like the law. I guess it really all depends on how hopeless the situation really is, and how your raid leader or raid itself feels about you taking some time to keep the fight going.I play a Priest now, either holy or disc depending on what we need, and you can be sure I'll do the same thing that the holy pally did for me.
10-21-2009 @ 3:46AM
This is the reason I don't call wipes on my guild anymore. Whenever I think to, I just end up wasting my breath and we pull a kill out of nowhere. We did a KT kill from 25% to dead with two healers, two dps and our tank. When the OT died I was ready to call it, but I'm glad we didn't.Now that's not to say you should always keep healing when things look grim. When a wipe is obvious (e.g. 3/4+ of a raid is dead, though it depends on the fight) you should keep in mind that the more you heal, the more damage the person you're healing is going to take. More damage taken by the player means more durability damage taken by the armor. Please, wipe responsibly.
10-21-2009 @ 4:18AM
Not wiping when you're told might save time one day and waste time another day. But it's up to the raid leader to make that call and it's disrespectful to ignore him.
10-21-2009 @ 9:50AM
As a warlock that tries to hellfire suicide hellfire when a wipe is called I can't even begin to say how annoying this is - you just screwed me over with a repair billIf you deny us this then the spell is completely useless!
10-21-2009 @ 12:55PM
First off, it's rude to the raid leader to ignore a wipe call. Do it in my raids and you'll get booted. Wanna make those calls? Become the RL. Second, depending on the fight it can be faster to wipe, run back, rebuff and just do it over. Sometimes not. I'm often thinking of that when I decide on a wipe. KT, with that annoying trash event, might not be one of those fights though. But it's annoying for the rest of the raid to sit there for 10 minutes dead while some people indulge themselves. Remember... you're part of a team.
10-21-2009 @ 7:25PM
This isn't really a good example, as you still failed to kill KT. Did you get close? Great. Would it have been quicker to just wipe with everyone else and get to the next attempt? Yes. If your usual raid leader is too quick to give up and call for a wipe, then that's something you might want to open a dialogue with him about. If a wipe is called for, at least half the people alive are probably going to listen. Making it even less likely you're going to succeed by pushing on. The correct way to handle this would be to wipe it up, and then suggest something along the lines of "hey, i think we might have still had a shot there, maybe we could try to push longer before wiping it." The incorrect way is what you did.
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