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10-24-2009 @ 8:08PM
I for one welcome our new Frost mage overlords.Gods in PVPSoon to Be Gods in PVE
10-24-2009 @ 9:26PM
Any idea what hit value is for the new frost builds? I'd assume it'd be close to frostfire, meaning arcane and fire are still easier to gear for.
10-25-2009 @ 12:34AM
It looks like the hit value is the same as arcane because you get the 3% hit from arcane and the 3% hit from frost, which is just like the arcane PvE spec. So looks like my frost friends out there will be looking for that 11% mark just like me.
10-25-2009 @ 2:31AM
The issue I see rising with Glyph of Eternal Water and having a permanent summonedelemental would be keeping it healed. Hunters and warlocks at least have abilities to heal their own pets while mages would not have this capability.
10-25-2009 @ 1:31AM
Arcane Focus is for Arcane spells only, I believe. So 14% is still the magic number.Also, Enduring Winter will still be awesome for PvP Frosties, as they (hopefully) won't be taking the new Glyph of Eternal Water.
10-25-2009 @ 7:21AM
Hardly gods in pve .Water Elemental is a nice boost , but Deep freez , no matter how aswome it itself would be , has a limit of 30 sec and doesnt provide a bonus aside it , so it wont be THAT much of an improvement .All in all , frost in pve wont jump up that much , and , regrettably , no way that it would be on par with Arcane and Fire .On a side note - why dont they provide an increasing frost damage debuff on your target over time as you throw icycles at him ? Like , DF could apply a10s +20%frost damage debuff for you and your water elemental . Or another tallent doing it something like it , and in a time-req. way so that it wont work in pvp much. Also I hope to see some further improvements to the WE , atleast make him scale with our frost talents ! Like Ice shards for start ? I know its water , but please ?
10-25-2009 @ 9:35AM
@OhpIf everything else stays as it is now, Water Elemental will be instant-cast while warlock/hunter pets have eternally long casts. Sure hunters have that Phoenix-thingy, but that has like 30 min cd while summon WE has 2-3 min cd? They'll prolly change thing about this too, but like I said, if everything would stay as it is now then resummoning the WE will hardly be much of an issue. In fact, it would resemble the way the Ghoul works for Unholy Dk's no? Never heard them complain :)
10-25-2009 @ 10:30AM
I wonder what the new frost build will taste like... See, my Felly hunters' buffed Shadow Bite makes everything taste all the sweeter. :)WaRloCk PriDe
10-25-2009 @ 2:35PM
Lol, Hardly gods in PvP, getting better in PvE though!
12-06-2009 @ 1:07PM
The only reason I ever summon my WE in PVP is for that nice extra freeze. Otherwise it is useless. It's damage is not enough to do anything in PVP.In PVE I can see how it will be nice, but it will add a max of 200 or 300 dps. Really not that great. I say that the glyph is going to be one of those cool glyphs that everyone gets (because hey WE out all the time EFFing sweet), but no one will be using it in couple months.
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