The thought I've always had is that "man I really hate the idea of having Garrosh as a leader, but I can't think many Alliance were probably more proud of having Varian than Andiun." Andiun to Varian is pretty much Thrall to Garrosh. He's more about diplomacy than being a fighter, and Varian explains it as Varian "has the spirit of Fighter."

Saurfang seems DEATHLY against Garrosh being leader, and he says "I'll kill you myself before I let that happen to us again." Add that to the fact that he was counting on his son's performance to being the saving grace of the Horde, and the fact that his son has...






Weakly succumb to the Lich King's bidding and become his greatest champion when the HUMAN was able to fend off the temptation. This looks REALLY bad for him and Garrosh would probably say he'd never break, and CERTAINLY never fall in battle.

That being said, I figure either A) Garrosh realizes a lot stuff out in Icecrown, because the general consensus among the horde, right now anyway, is that where they were was BAD. It got stuff done, but it did WAY more damage than good, and B) Suarfang is probably gonna get offed, at which point the Horde will all shed a collective tear.

I WILL say though, regardless of what the predictions say, and how it LOOKS really there's no reason for Thrall to step down as leader of the Horde yet. The reason given for Garrosh to become leader of the Horde was because thrall was to become to new Guardian of Tirisfal, and right now it's PRETTY CLEAR that Me'dan is the Guardian, will be the Guardian, and there's no other plausible choice OTHER than him for the job.

BUT then again that really wouldn't go well with way Cataclysm seems like it's going.

HOPEFULLY they'll ease us into it at the very least :(