@ Johan

It's all about perspective.

From my view (as a Horde player) you're a blind Alliance fanboy. From your view, we Horde are blind Horde fanboys.

In all fairness, you linking one page doesn't help your arguement.

I could easily blame the Alliance for not keeping Arthas/Medivh/Illidan/Kael under control, but I don't. Though Alliance players always like to bring up the "Horde can't keep Forsaken under control" argument (which, frankly, doesn't hold a candle to the atrocities that the Alliance have allowed to happen).

@ Lemons

It's easy for a Horde player to like Garrosh easier than Varian, especially if you've been reading the comics. When they first came out I was like "Hell, this guys pretty cool." Then they revelaed who he was and I considered rerolling just because he was a badass.

BUT...

Then they put him in the game and instead of being a badass he became an asshat. That's when I realized I wasn't a fan of Varian anymore. At least Garrosh went from being Emo to being an Asshat (a lot smoother transition).

Honestly, it's also quite easy because Thrall is essentially the stronger version of Varian. Rather Varian is a weaker version of Thrall. I had a nice long explanation about it, because I know all the goofy responses are going to pop up "Blah blah blah, gladiator, blah blah blah, Horde captured, blah blah blah" but frankly, if people are still coming up with those excuses then they're not worth responding to.