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10-31-2009 @ 11:08AM
I think this must be an American thing because ninja-ing isn't such a huge problem in the UK, at least not on Dragonblight. OK the occassional row will erupt in an heroic or (rarely) a raid, but it's not common. Mostly in guild people are just glad to see the raid getting gear: this increases it's viability and your chance to progress - and get better gear yourself.Do a larger ratio of kids play in America, I know you really like Alliance which we do associate with kids over here. It seems to hold true that kids like alliance and more mature players like Orcs, Trolls, Undead and Tauren in the EU. Is that why ninja-ing doesn't seem such an issue for Euro Horde?
10-31-2009 @ 9:11AM
It happens a lot in the UK as well. I purposefully don't run PUGs of any kind any more after getting sick of four ninja-raids in a row.Argent Dawn-EU, for the record.
10-31-2009 @ 9:58AM
Stereotyping is a bad thing.
10-31-2009 @ 12:08PM
Stereotyping is not a bad thing, it tells us about trends and probabilities. Stereotypes shouldn't shape our expectations and prejudice us towards other - that is bad.Rai are you Alliance? Just out of curiosity...gotta laugh haven't you.
10-31-2009 @ 11:36AM
I'm 26, I'm in the U.S., and my main is Alliance, though I've played both sides. I've run into just as many immature morons who roll Horde as roll Alliance. Feel free to cling tightly to that illusion of superiority if it makes you feel better about yourself, though.
10-31-2009 @ 12:09PM
Man that's some harsh drama you're whipping up there. 26? Get you with maturity.I wasn't having a go at anyone! Just stating what seems to be the norm in the EU: younger people are the majority in Alliance; Horde have a majority of older players...jesus touchy.
10-31-2009 @ 2:09PM
After playing both factions on many servers for long periods of time, EVERYBODY on one side thinks EVERYBODY on the other is much younger and much less mature. In the vast majority of cases, this simply isn't true.And Fleety, I think it just takes people to pay attention regularly to the happenings of their server to notice ninjas. I've personally been in only one raid where an item of importance was ninja'd. However, if you regularly pay attention to trade chat, (or in my case anyway) every few weeks you'll see somebody post "So and so ninja'd the VoA mammoth!" or "So and so ninja'd the gbank and gquit!". I think on almost all servers, this is something that occurs at most two or three times a month across the entire server. I don't think this is any different on EU realms.
10-31-2009 @ 2:52PM
No, not all stereotypes are inherently bad. It's a natural way of classifying a group that allows you to have some idea of how to act about them. Unfortunately, we must also be very careful about stereotypes, since if they are taken too far, they can lead to offensive situations, especially when it does not apply to someone. Claiming that children play [Faction 1] and mature players play [Faction 2] is one such offensive situation. You would find an equal number of players who would take offense by claiming that children play horde because they like to play the "big", "tough", "cool" races where they can run around going "ORC SMASH!", whereas mature players prefer the "stoic", and "heroic" races of the Alliance. Neither your assumption nor this one are particularly accurate. Each faction has their mix of both children and mature players, who play the side they do for a myriad of possible reasons. One reason many seem to think "the other side if full of children" is probably because the only direct interaction they have with the other faction is either PvP or when an obnoxious member of the other faction is making an ass of themselves. You can't talk to the other faction, can't trade, and don't usually have a reason to interact with them, so the mature players of the opposite faction go along without being noticed, whereas the immature jerks (who are often assumed to be children, which may or may NOT be true in any given situation) are the ones who will walk up to you and start /emoting rude gestures, spitting, laughter, etc. or attempting to ninja your kill or whatever. And because they're the only ones you seem to interact with, it gives you a false impression that the other faction is full of immature jerks. At least with your own faction you have your guild, friends, etc. as proof that your side isn't all idiots.So, as you see, claiming that one side is for children and the other for mature players is one of those poor stereotypes that just isn't true, and it's why you've gotten such a poor reception here.
10-31-2009 @ 3:20PM
Fleety is absolutely right, all mature players are Blood Elves. ;)When WoW came live, there was this general idea that Alliance was the protagonist in Lore (which is true, but anyway) and Horde were the "bad guys". Most newbs didn't want to be on the "wrong" faction, so they chose Alliance to play. To avoid those newbs, more mature players, specially the ones that played Warcraft 3 and liked Thrall lore, chose Horde.Fact is, after BC came out, there are more kids playing Horde than Ally, mainly because of Blood Elves. All human males look like they are 30+ while Blood Elves look like the pretty 18 from teen magazine. You have any doubt of that? Just check Barrens chat, Alliance has no such thing as Elwynn Forest chat. Or maybe Anal jokes, anyone?
12-09-2009 @ 12:43AM
Anal jokes are not horde exclusive and recently there has been a few cases of obama jokes in alliance trade chat
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