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11-17-2009 @ 3:11PM
They already started trying to encourage strategy with things like the additional honor when near a flag (less road fighting, yay!). There's definitely some additional things they could do to further this from a game-design perspective.However, the one thing affecting battleground teamwork more than anything if you ask me is the attutude of the "experts." The second some douche starts screaming, "YOU GUYS SUCK! THIS IS WHY THIS SERVER FAILS AT PVP. GO AWAY NOOBS," I have to admit that my motivation drops to zero. To those people: Your warcraft skills may be epic, but your people skills suck.I implore you...if you actually do have some sound strategy advice in battlegrounds, get it out there at the beginning of the battle, don't be a complete ass if someone screws up a tiny bit, and try and give a little positive encouragement when someone does good. Sometimes that makes all the difference in how your advice is received and followed.
11-17-2009 @ 3:20PM
I wholeheartedly agree.Every time someone starts yelling at me about how I shouldn't be trying to take back the middle I get distracted. I end up doing the opposite just for the glee of watching the nerdrage. I guess that makes me a troll?But seriously though - encouragement for jobs well done > yelling at stuff done wrong.
11-17-2009 @ 3:21PM
"YOU GUYS SUCK! THIS IS WHY THIS SERVER FAILS AT PVP. GO AWAY NOOBS"I've noticed that more often than note, the people who are screaming that are the pentacle of worthless individuals in a BG. They tend to be the ones that never even attempt to cap a tower, or defend a tower, or grab the flag, or protect the flag carrier. Yada yada.They are just the person who is busy e-peening over trying to have the highest damage and/or killing blows for the match by spending all their time in the roads.
11-17-2009 @ 3:25PM
/agreebgs would be more fun if not for the ass holes there who think they know everything and are better than everyone AND want to yell about it. the only people you can talk to in bgs are your team mates - the people on YOUR side. calling them names, mocking them, blaming them, and ridiculing them will not make the team function better.
11-17-2009 @ 3:24PM
I know I shouldn't but I do enjoy baiting those kind of people.Like while waiting to be rezzed, I have time to be pointing out that if he has time to type, he sure as hell isn't spending his time fighting.Drives them nuts
11-17-2009 @ 3:29PM
^^ This! Seriously, I'll run BG's because they're fun and great for off raid nights and to escape the Anal Chuck Norris hell that is known as "Trade". Working as a team is great, but when you get the elitist PvP god knower of everything and stating everyone else is a noob sucks the life out of the BG...go back to your 2v2's or whatever plz and thank you!
11-17-2009 @ 3:33PM
Check out the people yelling on the Armory after the match. I've never come across a single one who had any sort of successful PvP record. (And usually they're doing something useless like hiding atop the stable at the time that they're yelling.)When they start yelling, just right-click their name and report them as spammers and they'll be on ignore for a day.
11-17-2009 @ 3:37PM
I noticed the other day in WG. A player was yelling that he was doing all the work and no one was listening to his advice. At the end of the fight, I noticed that he was bottom of the dps charts and also bottom of the total damage done list. He had spent the entire fight yelling how bad the other players were, but had done nothing himself. I do feel that on my server, players have trouble playing as a team, they all go off and fight alone and of course spend most of their time running back from the gy. I was in a group, (hah, had) the other day and being a clothie, I was the target. The other in the group stood and watching me die and then moved on, without helping. This is teamwork? Get a grip people you get more honor by wining than losing and having the most kills.
11-17-2009 @ 3:41PM
They have bad ideas for tactics too. There was a group of us holding a tower in AV, and this idiot organizes a /report afk against us, thinking we were slacking because we were holding the tower until it burned but no Horde were attacking us.So we all leave the tower, and of course the Horde takes it two minutes later.Then the idiot starts screaming at us for losing the tower.We all reported him as AFK
11-17-2009 @ 3:55PM
Amen brother. I don't mind nubs. We've all been one. What I absolutely loathe is the one guy who comes in and says "no other 5k dps with 1k resilience? You guys suck!" I joing BGs to escape the elitist doucheyisms of PvE progression epeen fighting. But there is really no escape. Here's a couple PRO TIPS for you OG LEET BGers who grace us peons with their godly presence:1. LEARN TO LOSE WITH DIGNITY. Nubs do it better. We're losing. QQ less. No amount of blaming everyone for not grinding hours and hours of honor and arenas is going to win the game for you. 2. LEARN TO BE BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE WITH A SHRED OF HUMILITY. In BC a friend and I would frequently duo up for BG marathons well after we had every honor purchase and capped honor. It was for funzies. We regularly topped the charts and did better, but there was no need to point it out to everyone like a braggart. Those same people have the same access to the charts (which can mean nothing for certain games winning/losing). The people that mind don't matter, and the people that matter don't mind. Try and be a little more stand up about it.3. WHEN THERE IS A DUDE IN A PUG BG WITH A NICE GLAD WEAPON, that toolbag is usually afk at the entrance. True story. 100% of the time I have bg'd since Wrath and seen gladiator weapons, it was on a dude who wasn't helping in the least, which blows your theory out of the water.4. NO AMOUNT OF GEAR IS GOING TO MAKE ME GOOD. I suck. Seriously. Be okay with it. Full ilvl 245 pvp gear with a million resilience and i'd still get my ass handed to me. Try not to rub it in my face because I'm sensative and my parents didn't hug me enough./carry on
11-17-2009 @ 8:01PM
I agree completely people who enter bgs and want to tell everyone else how much they fail at pvp or how much better they are really shouldn't do bgs. Seriously if your that good and everyone else is that bad go get in a premade and stop complaining. Whats even worse though is people who enter a bg and say things like "this team sucks were gonna lose, might as well just let them win" before it even begins.
11-17-2009 @ 9:48PM
The vote-replace leader system being introduced to PuGs should also remove people in BG's.
11-18-2009 @ 2:15PM
I reply to those screamers with a simple "welcome to my ignore list". That REALLY gets them fired up. LOL
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