Drama Mamas: Time to man up
Dodge the drama and become that player everyone wants in their group with the Drama Mamas. Lisa Poisso and Robin Torres are real-life mamas and experienced WoW players -- and just as we don't want our precious babies to be the ones kicking and wailing on the floor of checkout lane next to the candy, neither do we want you to become known as That Guy on your server. We're taking your questions at DramaMamas (at) WoW (dot) com.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we pretend to be a gender we're not. When we discussed boys playing girl characters before, we all pretty much agreed that it was cool as long as there was no deception involved. Roleplaying = yay. Experimentation = good. Hiding your true identity in a non-roleplaying environment = uh oh. Unfortunately, for One Big Liar, what began as experimentation and a wee bit of roleplaying evolved into a full-scale reputation for being a "real girl." Uh oh, indeed.
Dear Drama Mamas: I'm in need of some advice. I've played WoW for 2 years, first as a male Troll and now as a female Tauren. When I was playing as my Troll in the BC days there were no problems. However, since I started playing my Tauren female when Wrath came out, things have started to go awry. When I hit 80, I joined a new guild and started doing raids with them where everyone assumed I was female, like my toon was. Problem is, I'm not. I figured there wasn't much harm in not correcting them since I didn't have a mic at the time and figured this wouldn't get to be too big of an issue. However, now no matter where I go, guilds or groups or raids, everyone assumes I'm female since that's what I've never denied.
Now that I have a mic, this is a problem. They yell at me for not using it, but if I do they'll know I've been lying for the past year and I'm afraid I'd get scorned. This would also be the case with my guild and my friends.
Don't get me wrong -- I haven't been using my pretending to be female to get anything from anyone. I've acted like myself just throwing in some things that aren't associated with my gender. I just wanted to explore the idea. I'm wanting to use my mic and just get honest with everyone, but I'm afraid I'd lose friends, my guild and trust. So should I just keep up the facade or come clean? If the second option, any suggestions on how to do it nicely? Thanks, One Big Liar
Drama Mama Robin: Liar, you need to man up -- pun intended. You are tired of the facade and somehow it's going to get out... it always does. No matter how nicely you put it, however, there are going to be bad feelings about your deception. Here are some tips:
Drama Mama Lisa: As Robin said, your guild very well could freak out over this. Honestly, though? Don't build this up to be bigger than it really is. What about our old friend, humor? In a bubbly falsetto: "Now that I finally have a mic, it's been brought to my attention that some of you good people think I'm a female IRL, so I've been advised to keep things comfortable by carrying on my buxom Tauren persona."
If anyone seems seriously taken aback, try the real deal: the truth. Admit that your female persona was a simple misunderstanding that evolved into an intriguing experience for your Tauren character. Make it clear that you never sought to trick or bilk anyone. Explain how the situation became more awkward and embarrassing than it was interesting, over time, and that you became more comfortable simply allowing the issue to slide.
The clincher in this situation is giving your guildmates a reason to welcome the male version of you. Show them what you really are: an open, personable guy who enjoys this guild so much that he's ready to take the next step and get real. Say that outright, and show them that you mean it. I think you'll enjoy the results – the bonds of online friendships are one of the true joys of MMOs like WoW.
Drama Mamas Drama-Buster of the Week
Are you a non-officer annoyed by a new guild recruit? Just bite your tongue, turn your tolerance up to 11 and wait a couple weeks. Turnover during the app process tends to be pretty high for most guilds. No need to cause a ruckus over someone who ends up being a short-timer. Chances are, he or she is annoying others too and the situation will just take care of itself. Also, new recruits are often a bit anxious to fit in and try too hard at first. The guildnoob may turn out to be just fine after a settling down period. If the problem is still a problem after a decent waiting period (2 to 3 weeks), then you can try to deal with it. Otherwise, you don't want to be that grump who never seems to get along with the new guys, right?
Remember, your mama wouldn't want to see your name on any drama. Play nice ... and when in doubt, ask the Drama Mamas at DramaMamas (at) WoW (dot) com.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we pretend to be a gender we're not. When we discussed boys playing girl characters before, we all pretty much agreed that it was cool as long as there was no deception involved. Roleplaying = yay. Experimentation = good. Hiding your true identity in a non-roleplaying environment = uh oh. Unfortunately, for One Big Liar, what began as experimentation and a wee bit of roleplaying evolved into a full-scale reputation for being a "real girl." Uh oh, indeed.
Dear Drama Mamas: I'm in need of some advice. I've played WoW for 2 years, first as a male Troll and now as a female Tauren. When I was playing as my Troll in the BC days there were no problems. However, since I started playing my Tauren female when Wrath came out, things have started to go awry. When I hit 80, I joined a new guild and started doing raids with them where everyone assumed I was female, like my toon was. Problem is, I'm not. I figured there wasn't much harm in not correcting them since I didn't have a mic at the time and figured this wouldn't get to be too big of an issue. However, now no matter where I go, guilds or groups or raids, everyone assumes I'm female since that's what I've never denied.
Now that I have a mic, this is a problem. They yell at me for not using it, but if I do they'll know I've been lying for the past year and I'm afraid I'd get scorned. This would also be the case with my guild and my friends.
Don't get me wrong -- I haven't been using my pretending to be female to get anything from anyone. I've acted like myself just throwing in some things that aren't associated with my gender. I just wanted to explore the idea. I'm wanting to use my mic and just get honest with everyone, but I'm afraid I'd lose friends, my guild and trust. So should I just keep up the facade or come clean? If the second option, any suggestions on how to do it nicely? Thanks, One Big Liar
Drama Mama Robin: Liar, you need to man up -- pun intended. You are tired of the facade and somehow it's going to get out... it always does. No matter how nicely you put it, however, there are going to be bad feelings about your deception. Here are some tips:- Start small: Tell your closest online friends first, then your guild leadership.
- Don't get defensive: Because you threw in some things not associated with your gender, you did encourage the facade. So take your lumps and apologize.
- Accept your punishment: Your guild leaders may gkick you, put you on probation or be content to just mock you mercilessly. If it's the mocking, be thankful they are doing it to your face.
- See the humor: Your situation is funny. If you laugh along with everyone, you'll be able to get over the embarrassment much more quickly.
- Give it time: No matter how unbearable you may find the scorn and ridicule of the first few days, it will pass. There is always bigger drama on the horizon, you just need to wait it out. If you find that the repercussions of your lie are just too much for you to bear, you can always change your realm (and name) and start fresh someplace else. But, as long as you're telling the truth that you didn't compromise anyone with your gender-bending, people will get over this and so will you.
Drama Mama Lisa: As Robin said, your guild very well could freak out over this. Honestly, though? Don't build this up to be bigger than it really is. What about our old friend, humor? In a bubbly falsetto: "Now that I finally have a mic, it's been brought to my attention that some of you good people think I'm a female IRL, so I've been advised to keep things comfortable by carrying on my buxom Tauren persona."
If anyone seems seriously taken aback, try the real deal: the truth. Admit that your female persona was a simple misunderstanding that evolved into an intriguing experience for your Tauren character. Make it clear that you never sought to trick or bilk anyone. Explain how the situation became more awkward and embarrassing than it was interesting, over time, and that you became more comfortable simply allowing the issue to slide.
The clincher in this situation is giving your guildmates a reason to welcome the male version of you. Show them what you really are: an open, personable guy who enjoys this guild so much that he's ready to take the next step and get real. Say that outright, and show them that you mean it. I think you'll enjoy the results – the bonds of online friendships are one of the true joys of MMOs like WoW.
Drama Mamas Drama-Buster of the Week
Are you a non-officer annoyed by a new guild recruit? Just bite your tongue, turn your tolerance up to 11 and wait a couple weeks. Turnover during the app process tends to be pretty high for most guilds. No need to cause a ruckus over someone who ends up being a short-timer. Chances are, he or she is annoying others too and the situation will just take care of itself. Also, new recruits are often a bit anxious to fit in and try too hard at first. The guildnoob may turn out to be just fine after a settling down period. If the problem is still a problem after a decent waiting period (2 to 3 weeks), then you can try to deal with it. Otherwise, you don't want to be that grump who never seems to get along with the new guys, right?
Filed under: Drama Mamas, Analysis / Opinion, WoW Social Conventions, Virtual selves







Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Brien Nov 20th 2009 8:17PM
My suggestion to the first guy is to just say to his guild mates ( or at least a few members) "hey guys, it recently came to my attention that some people here that I was a chick when I'm a guy. Just figured I'd set that straight so no one thinks I'm trying to pull a fast one on them."
Karilyn Nov 20th 2009 9:41PM
Pretty much this. It works out more or less in the same way when people find out I'm a woman on Vent.
Easiest thing to do is just, log into Vent and be all like "Hey guys, I got a mic now"
And if anybody is like "You are a guy *gasp*"
You just respond with "Yeah, I thought ya'll knew I was a guy."
And it pretty much just ends there, because where else are they going to take it?
Bronwyn Nov 20th 2009 9:54PM
This. If its really like it sounds- not actually playing to the female persona but more actually just not saying anything when people call you a chick, I wouldn't worry about it. Just start talking in vent, even.
However, if you have actually been carrying on as a girl and actively furthering peoples' thinking that, then you might have more of a problem. Still, I doubt anyone's really going to get too upset about it.
Ringo Flinthammer Nov 20th 2009 10:01PM
"That said, I do hope this doesn't cut down on the cybersex."
Sye Nov 21st 2009 8:46AM
Yeah, if it was me I would probably blow m chances of intergrating with the guild for a bit of comedy...
"You know that penis that people think I don't have? It's a funny story..."
Gnosh Nov 23rd 2009 10:14AM
Oof. It's been a YEAR? I guarantee one or two guildies are harboring fantasies of a life with you. Be prepared to break some hearts.
FoxOfWar Nov 20th 2009 8:24PM
I can sort of relate; I'm a male player that's been playing female tauren since... well, always. Someting in them just click with me(not in THAT way, you pervs), and I have no idea what. In the average pug, people might assume that I'm female IRL. Weirdest was once one guy who first insulted my healing, then later asked if I was female IRL and wanted to apologise if I was one. I told him the truth, he exploded at me. I'm still laughing at that.
My guildies however have always known(been in same guild for almost two years now). New people sometimes assume I'm female... until they hear my Darth Vader'ish voice in teamspeak and actually connect it to the femme tauren.
People indeed might explode at you for "lying" - but from what I understand, you really haven't been lying, just letting them assume. Telling the truth might upset some of them, but really - if someone loses their wits because of something like your real gender differing from the one you play, you can consider if those are the kind of people you want to be playing with. Any sensible person with a brain equipped would not probably explode over this - because any sensible person does not assume that character's gender would match the gender IRL. Or at least I would find it very childish to gkick or similar because of this. If you haven't actively been pretending to be female to take advantage of people(yea, those sadly exist), I can't see why would someone go angry because of this.
Honestly: if they assumed you're female only because of the character and not because you've said something to that direction - and would want to punish you for something they assumed, think again if that's the guild you want to be in to begin with.
Just my 0.02.
Chizlemonkey Nov 20th 2009 10:30PM
I think you mean a brain equipped with +1 intelligence!
xtremebmx_77 Nov 21st 2009 1:48AM
Well do they assume you're a bipedal cow-human in real life? It's not like you've denied it or make them think otherwise. =)
Calybos Nov 21st 2009 8:07AM
Best comment to accompany the revelation: "By the way, I'm not really a tauren either."
Kind of puts the assumptions in perspective.
Rubitard Nov 20th 2009 8:30PM
I'd start off by saying, "Who here has seen the film, The Crying Game?"
Charneldeath Nov 20th 2009 8:46PM
^ winner
Reuben Nov 20th 2009 8:46PM
Oh, man, that made my night.
Holgar Nov 20th 2009 8:59PM
bwahahahahahaha
QQinsider Nov 21st 2009 11:24AM
Looooooool. Winner.
chillaxe Nov 20th 2009 8:33PM
Something similar happened way back in my vanilla guild. We had a player who played a chick toon, said some girly things, didnt talk in vent, etc... We all assumed she was a girl. Until we had a post your pic thread on the guild forums and as it turns out she was not a girl at all!
No one really seemed to care at, but myself and another officer jokingly asked him about some of the things he had said and as it turns out, he was gay.
We never actually asked him if he was in fact a girl before we saw a picture, we just assumed.
So if thats your case, just tell them you're gay, you should be fine.
Mithraeus Nov 20th 2009 10:53PM
Zomg, I lol'ed XD
beaglesan Nov 20th 2009 8:32PM
It's always fun when I get a whisper, "Ur hawt"
and to reply
"Thanks! My wife also thinks I'm pretty hot for 45-old guy who's been married for 15 years and has a 7-year old kid."
Sheesh, I've done tampon runs and stood in department store lines to buy daily wear bras and panties whilst She Who Must Be Obeyed continues her mercantile acquisition spree, aka shopping. I go into Victoria's Secret and even naughtier lingerie stores, and when the female salesperson asks if she can help, I say, "Sure! What do you think about such and such for my wife who is (the following measurements have been deleted upon pain of this poster's agonizing death)...."
Meaning that I'm unconcerned, to say the least, what anyone thinks about the female toons I play.
The key, as this article says, is to honest and upfront from the getgo, and to correct any incorrect assumptions immediately.
Muse Nov 20th 2009 11:48PM
Please say there's more men like you out there?
Jed Nov 21st 2009 4:55AM
haha.. love the way you talk