The sudden popularity of GDKP

The way it works is this: You go into an instance, say Naxx, and everyone knows ahead of time that it is a "GDKP run," or a "gold run," or a "cash run." You down the first boss, and Webbed Death drops. The master looter then takes bids of gold on the item (this can be done via public chat or via an addon), and whoever bids the most gold gets the item. The person who wins then pays that amount of gold (some raids have minimum bids of, say, 100g) to "the pot," and the raid moves on. Another boss drops, another item drops -- usually all items, including recipes and mats, are auctioned off -- and another high bid goes into "the pot." Then, at the end of the raid, the pot is evenly split among all members. Everybody who joined in on the raid gets an even share of the bidded gold, including people who got no items, or the Mr. Moneybags who won them all.
Interesting, no? It helps nearly every kind of character, from the people who don't need any of the gear but will willingly run instances for gold, to the people who don't have too much gear (newly 80 alts), but have plenty of gold to spend. And generally, the concepts of main spec or off-spec are completely ignored -- the item always just goes to the highest bidder. Anytime someone outbids you for an item, it just raises the amount of gold that you'll walk away with at the end, so theoretically, everybody wins.
There are issues, of course. Generally, because this kind of payoff attracts poorly geared but rich characters, raidleaders have to balance out who's in the raid, and if someone isn't pulling their weight, people are often asked to leave (if you suck, you get kicked, and can lose your pot). And of course, anytime gold becomes the only factor in getting gear, then you get into the point where people are encouraged to cheat and buy gold, not only breaking Blizzard's terms of service, but supporting the same system that's gotten so many players hacked in the past. It's naive to assume that everyone who shows up to a gold run with gobs of cash did so with money they earned themselves, so some players don't support this DKP system just for that reason.
Still, it's a fascinating, completely player-created idea, and especially when you're running with people you can trust and who have handled these raids before (generally, you want to go on a raid with someone who knows what they're doing, and fortunately, "good" GDKP raidleaders tend to get reputations for doing it right), there's a lot of potential to either pick up some nice gear or make a lot of money/badges/etc. We'll have to keep an eye on GDKP in the future (and Blizzard will probably do the same), because it's definitely growing in popularity -- odds are that there's a regular GDKP run on your server already, if not very soon.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Mike Nov 22nd 2009 12:05PM
looks very cool, i look forward to doing one of these runs
Xweaz Nov 22nd 2009 12:07PM
Fascinating. I can't wait to try it
Qot Nov 22nd 2009 3:53PM
Same here. It's an enticement to do runs that are just below your gear level to pick up that one upgrade from that one boss.
Antropine Nov 22nd 2009 12:10PM
On Arthas US one of the worlds best Guilds, TG Runs a GDKP every week, last week I got 5k gold in it, great system.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677866927&sid=1
was one a few weeks ago.
Zhanrock Nov 22nd 2009 4:27PM
And on Arthas alliance side, Now Hidden runs their GDKP, while i still do my normal ToC25 runs.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21034437038&sid=1
Coldbear Nov 22nd 2009 7:48PM
Why the hell are the idiots downrating Antropine's post?
On Arthas US one of the worlds best Guilds, TG Runs a GDKP every week, last week I got 5k gold in it, great system.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677866927&sid=1
was one a few weeks ago.
Bedlock Jan 14th 2010 7:26AM
I downrated Zhanrock because he is still alliance.
Get with the times on arthas brah
Aurigo Nov 22nd 2009 12:10PM
I would be very wary of people starting these types of raids and then ninjaing the money.
Quiz Nov 22nd 2009 2:18PM
This.
Ninjaing loot is bad enough; what if the player designated to hold the pot decides he doesn't want to give out the money at the end of the run and casually logs off with several thousand in gold?
hoss Nov 22nd 2009 3:20PM
Sounds a lot like EVE Player run banks.. and we all know how well that always ends.
Kakistocracy Nov 22nd 2009 3:36PM
Don't we run into that same problem outside of MMOs?
Methuus Nov 22nd 2009 4:16PM
The way the ninja problem is somewhat-solved is reputational.
On servers where GDKP runs happen regularly, a player or a guild builds up a reputation for running good GDKP runs; and not just a reputation for not ninja-ing, but also for putting together the right mix of players. It's to the advantage for the organizer to keep a good reputation because they then have their pick of players who are interested in going on the GDKP run.
GDKP runs are usually advertised on the realm forums or tradechat branded with the player or guild's name that is running them. If you see a GDKP run advertised and you're interested, avoid the ones that don't have a player or guild name attached to them, and if they do have a player or guild, ask around to find out the reputation of the raid leader.
brentkrupp Nov 22nd 2009 5:02PM
The GMs have already said that they'll enforce the gold split and they've already intervened when a GDKP pot was stolen.
rawrawrawr Nov 22nd 2009 5:18PM
There is a simple, yet VERY important step that needs to be taken to prevent something like this from occurring: The Raid Leader needs to specifically say in raid chat something outlining GDKP, basically that all 10/25 people in the raid at the kill of the final boss will receive a 10th/25th of the pot. This is vital, even if everyone knows how a GDKP works.
You can screenshot this if you want, for some juicy realm forum drama, but it serves a much more important function: GMs can recall anything said in chat, and view ninjaing the pot after promising to distribute it evenly as fraudulent, which, obviously, isn't the kind of thing they (or the ToA) condone. See these two links and the blue responses:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677860633&sid=1
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11155758539&sid=1
It is vital that it is in in-game chat. GMs can't read your vent conversations =P.
Kelz Nov 22nd 2009 7:29PM
That's why the only one I've done was backed by one of the best ally-side guilds on my server. It was run by the guild leader, and they weren't going to trash their rep on the server by ninjaing the 50k gold that was in the pot at the end.
Lucidique Nov 22nd 2009 12:11PM
I know the top-raiding guild on my server, Bad Omen, did a GDKP run some weeks ago. As far as I remember, it all went smoothly. A good mix of rich alts, well-geared Mains just joining for the lols and so on.
Rob Nov 22nd 2009 12:12PM
I would never do this type of run. How do you know the PUG would dissolve in the middle. Or the ML wont ninja DC or something. And if its a guild, why would you even do such a thing? Its basically a tax on the rich to give to the poor. The poor get gold, which sorta helps them gear up, but no gear. The rich get gear at the expense of gold. No, everyone doesnt win, everyone loses. The rich are supporting the poor for doing nothing but their usual role. The poor can exploit this system to take the money from rich people. I just find it a terrible idea.
Gear should have nothing to do with wealth, except the occassional BOE you can buy on the AH. This system doesnt reward loyalty, skill, or anything else. If it's all about gold, then that's a stupid game. I like my AH PVP, but don't drag that into raiding please.
Antropine Nov 22nd 2009 12:14PM
So the REALLY good guilds on your server, with Tribute to Insanity and BiS players would ninja the money and TOTALLY DESTROY there reputation and ruin a 5k a week cash cow?
Yep, sounds totally reasonable, your fears aren't paranoid at all.
Nick S Nov 22nd 2009 12:19PM
Everyone loses?
The poor get gold. The rich get gear. Everyone gets something. Compare this to a typical run, where rolls determine loot:
Some people see loot drop for them and get it.
Nick S Nov 22nd 2009 12:21PM
Continuing since part of my post was eaten:
Some people see gear drop for them and get it: Winners
Some people see gear drop for them, but don't get it: Losers
Some people see no gear drop for them: Losers
So... a system where everyone gets something, no matter what, is worse than one where only some people get anything?