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11-23-2009 @ 11:11PM
Another terrible warlock column."Horror is different from fear in that it can't be removed but that's not a big issue on a three second duration (except maybe in that PvP thing)."Wrong. Horror can be removed just like any other magic effect. The only difference between horror and fear is that horror can't be broken by specifically fear breaking effects. Horror can be dispelled."It's [seduction] a very fragile spell, in that damage to either the mob or the succubus will break it, but the fact that it's being done by the minion and not the caster makes it very powerful indeed."I'm pretty sure damage on the succubus will not break seduction."This [how of terror] is all sounding good but if I have several mobs around me then typically they are hitting me and a 1.5 second cast isn't quick enough. It can get you out of some jams though, especially if you use the voidwalker bubble trick."VW trick? What about Shadowfury. You know, the second most important lock cc? SF -> HoT. This is the most important trick that every semi-competent PvP lock will use."/showtooltip Shadowbolt/cast Shadowbolt/cast[pet:succubus] Soothing Kiss"WTF? Why not just auto-cast? And no-one uses Succubus in PvE. Infact, she's hardly used in PvP, VW and the Felpuppy is nearly always prefered.
11-23-2009 @ 11:37PM
First, Shadowfury's not a spell that all locks have, since you have to be specced fairly deep into destruction to see it. Second, and in all fairness, he DID say that he wasn't gearing the column towards PvP in any way, so your PvP related criticisms are kind of moot. Third, the Soothing Kiss macro was for a special case that he mentioned in the sentences before and was meant for if you happened to want more specific control of the ability. Fourth, I happened to get a heck of a lot of use out of my succubus while I was leveling. She goes quite well with the affliction drain-tanking that he describes in the article. Fifth (and most subjectively) you consider three criticisms on a two page article a reason to call it "terrible"?One thing you do have going for you is Howl of Terror being dispellable, but I'll admit I didn't know that before you mentioned it.
11-23-2009 @ 11:39PM
Oh I forgot your comment about seduction breaking based on damage to the succy, which is probably true. However, if it works like player channeled spells (which I'm assuming it does) getting hit once or twice will reduce the channeling duration enough that it's worth significantly less.
11-24-2009 @ 5:45AM
Did you actually read the post properly - you know the bit where he says :- 'It's true that my knowledge and experience of PvP pretty much extends as far as being a ble to smell it early enough to avoid it. Don't get me wrong, I love researching for Blood Pact but in this case I'm not going to try, and for two reasons. First, nobody who cares about warlock PvP wants to have me school them on it'So your comments of 'What about Shadowfury. You know, the second most important lock cc? SF -> HoT. This is the most important trick that every semi-competent PvP lock will use.' are a bit off tbh - im not querying any factual information - thats for more experienced locks to see n comment. But having a go because he doesnt cover pvp AFTER he stated he wont advise on PVP is just being nasty imo.Second 'pretty sure'? Well imo if your gonna have a go - you better be SURE. You would have a go if the author is only 'pretty sure', so check your facts before you berate people because of them, and BE sure.
11-24-2009 @ 6:59AM
Are you kidding? Succubus is the most common standard pet for affliction warlocks running raids and heroics. Destruction warlocks roll with the imp, and demonology warlocks use the felguard, but the succubus is queen of affliction. This may change in 3.3.As for pvp, I take it you've never been out of the battleground and into the arena, where the succubus gets a lot of use.
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