Drama Mamas: When a partner wanders astray
Dodge the drama and become that player everyone wants in their group with the Drama Mamas. Lisa Poisso and Robin Torres are real-life mamas and experienced WoW players -- and just as we don't want our precious babies to be the ones kicking and wailing on the floor of checkout lane next to the candy, neither do we want you to become known as That Guy on your server. We're taking your questions at DramaMamas (at) WoW (dot) com.
The internet is a hotbed of faux-mance. Other players seem infinitely more fascinating and attractive than the very real partners sitting just across the room, when seen through the lens of fevered imaginations. Add the spice of risqué chat, the attraction of regular time spent together and a dash of Vent and IMs, and you have the makings of the beginning of the end. Infidelity is an ugly subject, and the Drama Mamas think it's best to deal with it in the same manner we advise handling other problem situations: head on, with respect and with firmness.
Dear Drama Mamas: Hi, I am a wife and mother who plays WoW. I started playing with my husband over two years ago. I am a stay-at-home mom, so during nap time and after the kids go to bed for the night, I play. My husband plays when he gets home from work until he goes to bed. The raiding guild me and my husband are in is very family-friendly and is full of husband-and-wife teams.
Earlier this year, we had a large group of players join the guild (which me and my husband are officers of). I befriended one of the female players when she and her friends joined after her husband joined. We became fast friends. We talked about our kids and even became friends on Facebook. She never really grouped much with her husband; it was just mainly me and my husband and some of her friends. As we became better friends, she confided in me about the issues between her and her husband.
Now, me and my husband had been having our ups and downs, like any healthy couple, and I had noticed that he was acting different after we talked or argued about something. I brushed it off, thinking that, I don't know, he was just tired or something. And I then noticed that he and she were spending a lot of time together in game and on Vent. At first, I didn't think anything about it. But after a month or so, I started to fell weird about it, and I told him. I said I really feel weird about the time you are spending with her. I mean, he was staying up later then he used to, much later, and was always in Vent when before he was only in Vent when we did a raid or a five-man. He told me that he understood and that he would try to keep it down and that it didn't mean anything, that they and us were all friends. Well, I brushed it off for a week or so, thinking I was just being crazy.
And then I noticed after another month that I was getting left out of the groups, and for some odd reason, she just kinda only talked to me when she wanted to know something. I again went to my husband and said this time I feel uncomfortable about it, and I didn't know really what their relationship was but I didn't like it and I wanted it to stop and just be game-related stuff. Since we are officers, I didn't want him to just ignore her. Well, things changed for a bit, and then it got really weird. I noticed that he was spending more time outside before he came in after work and that he wasn't calling me as much. I brushed that off as a rough work week over and over again. LOL
Well, one day I happened to go to his computer to do something with his character and noticed a whisper from her, and I was floored. I knew then what was going on. They were talking on the phone with each other every day. I checked phone records, and lo and behold, he had been talking and texting her for months. I was heartbroken.
I did not say anything to him until the next day. I just was so upset. I told our guild leader that I was taking a break from game and I would let him know when I was coming back. I then told my husband this the next day. He wanted to know why and I told him. We yelled at each other and we talked for hours. I told him it needed to end. He said he would end it the next day; I said no, tonight. So we went together to his computer and he ended it. She ask if she needed to leave the guild and we both told her no, that we didn't want to hurt the guild by her leaving.
And here is my question or questions. Do you think I did the right think by not asking her to leave or not leaving myself? Or how do I get over something like this? They never were physically together. We live thousands of miles apart. This was just over the phone and the computer. But they did share things with each other that should have been meant for only me. I was very hurt by this. And since I found out and he ended the affair (that is what I call it), she has been really mopey in guild and raids. They do not talk anymore on the phone, and in game, it is only guild- and raid-related stuff. But she is still stuck on him, and she is almost 10 years older then him. I don't understand what I need to do about this. I was just wondering how you would handle this kind of situation. I would love to know what other WoW women would do if they found themselves in this jam. Please help! Brokenhearted Raider
Drama Mama Lisa: I am so, so sorry to hear of your troubles. I think it might help to step back for a moment and review our advice from Wife aggro two weeks ago. As with Aggrowifed, whose new wife was feeling threatened by his play schedule, World of Warcraft isn't really the root of your problem. You probably already know this -- so you have to also realize, then, that the solution won't be found there, either.
It's not fair to anyone involved for the three of you to face one another regularly in your guild. This isn't about keeping up appearances or making concessions; it's about throwing a life preserver to your marriage in a murky sea where your husband is already sinking fast. By failing to end this affair after months of repeatedly being confronted about his behavior, your husband has already shown that he's unable or unwilling to moderate his contact with the other woman.
It's time for you and your husband to take a WoW holiday. If you think that continuing to spend time playing with your husband would be helpful to your relationship, you could try transferring or re-rolling on another realm. Since this affair has spread beyond the game's borders, however, it's not much protection from the other woman. She already knows plenty of ways to get in touch with your husband. You can bet that she'll find out where you've transferred, if she really wants to know. Best to simply make a clean break from the game. You and your husband need a new dynamic and fresh ways to relate to one another right now. Ultimately, the time you've been spending in WoW would be better spent in counseling and in pastimes that are exclusive to your partnership and family, working on getting your marriage back on track. Best of luck, Brokenhearted. Stay strong.
Drama Mama Robin: Brokenhearted, I really feel for you and you are not alone. This story is as old as online communication. Before MMOs, before chat rooms, there were BBSs. People with modems have been surreptitiously carrying on affairs while appearing to be busily working/playing at their computers for more than 20 years. Before WoW, it happened to a very close friend of mine in EQ -- she made me search the chat logs to confirm her suspicions. It was a painful experience for all of us.
I think it is important to face the harsh realities of your situation, so I'm going to be blunt and I'm sorry if it hurts.
Online romances are intoxicating. It feels like the minds are meeting and directly communicating intimate thoughts and feelings -- without the distractions of physical imperfections, unpleasant smells and annoying mannerisms. And the participants who are in committed relationships with others rationalize their behavior with "it's not cheating if we don't touch." You call it an affair because it is an affair. People can argue that they didn't have physical sex and therefore didn't cheat all they want. But the fact is that he spent time, resources and emotions on another woman in the place of spending these things on you.
So I ask you, what if the three of you belonged to a softball team or poker club together instead of playing WoW? Would you still be attending those functions and enabling interactions between those two? I know that physically seeing her would be harder than the virtual interaction, but the principle is the same. She is going to keep tempting your husband and even if he is now completely trustworthy (with the woman he was untrustworthy with so recently), he still will have the stress of having to constantly turn down her advances.
As Lisa said, this isn't a WoW issue. Though it happened in Azeroth, it wasn't caused by the game. But to answer your question, I highly recommend that you sever all contact with this woman. Unfortunately, even if you get her to leave the guild and you both put her on ignore, she can always get on an alt and whisper your husband that way. In fact, she's probably doing that already. So you need to decide whether you want to get her to leave the guild (risking alt contact) or transfer/reroll on another server without telling her or any of her friends where you are going.
There are many successful marriages that have survived a straying spouse and many horrible marriages that have never undergone cheating of any kind. I hope that you are able to achieve happiness again, whether you are able to work things out with your husband or not. Regardless, life is too short to allow that woman any more influence on your mental well-being. /hug
Drama Buster of the Week
If you've finally talked a friend into playing WoW, give it up and spend some time playing with him. Give him some bags and a five-spot to get started, and be available to answer questions via /whisper while he works out the basics. Once he starts gaining a little ground, try to block out time once or twice a week to play together. Cover his butt when he's ready to hit Hillsbrad. Offer to run him through Scarlet when he's high enough to get the quests. Invite him to five-mans when he finally dings 80. Your circle of friends just got a little tighter – enjoy!
Remember, your mama wouldn't want to see your name on any drama. Play nice ... and when in doubt, ask the Drama Mamas at DramaMamas (at) WoW (dot) com.
The internet is a hotbed of faux-mance. Other players seem infinitely more fascinating and attractive than the very real partners sitting just across the room, when seen through the lens of fevered imaginations. Add the spice of risqué chat, the attraction of regular time spent together and a dash of Vent and IMs, and you have the makings of the beginning of the end. Infidelity is an ugly subject, and the Drama Mamas think it's best to deal with it in the same manner we advise handling other problem situations: head on, with respect and with firmness.
Dear Drama Mamas: Hi, I am a wife and mother who plays WoW. I started playing with my husband over two years ago. I am a stay-at-home mom, so during nap time and after the kids go to bed for the night, I play. My husband plays when he gets home from work until he goes to bed. The raiding guild me and my husband are in is very family-friendly and is full of husband-and-wife teams.
Earlier this year, we had a large group of players join the guild (which me and my husband are officers of). I befriended one of the female players when she and her friends joined after her husband joined. We became fast friends. We talked about our kids and even became friends on Facebook. She never really grouped much with her husband; it was just mainly me and my husband and some of her friends. As we became better friends, she confided in me about the issues between her and her husband.
Now, me and my husband had been having our ups and downs, like any healthy couple, and I had noticed that he was acting different after we talked or argued about something. I brushed it off, thinking that, I don't know, he was just tired or something. And I then noticed that he and she were spending a lot of time together in game and on Vent. At first, I didn't think anything about it. But after a month or so, I started to fell weird about it, and I told him. I said I really feel weird about the time you are spending with her. I mean, he was staying up later then he used to, much later, and was always in Vent when before he was only in Vent when we did a raid or a five-man. He told me that he understood and that he would try to keep it down and that it didn't mean anything, that they and us were all friends. Well, I brushed it off for a week or so, thinking I was just being crazy.
And then I noticed after another month that I was getting left out of the groups, and for some odd reason, she just kinda only talked to me when she wanted to know something. I again went to my husband and said this time I feel uncomfortable about it, and I didn't know really what their relationship was but I didn't like it and I wanted it to stop and just be game-related stuff. Since we are officers, I didn't want him to just ignore her. Well, things changed for a bit, and then it got really weird. I noticed that he was spending more time outside before he came in after work and that he wasn't calling me as much. I brushed that off as a rough work week over and over again. LOL
Well, one day I happened to go to his computer to do something with his character and noticed a whisper from her, and I was floored. I knew then what was going on. They were talking on the phone with each other every day. I checked phone records, and lo and behold, he had been talking and texting her for months. I was heartbroken.
I did not say anything to him until the next day. I just was so upset. I told our guild leader that I was taking a break from game and I would let him know when I was coming back. I then told my husband this the next day. He wanted to know why and I told him. We yelled at each other and we talked for hours. I told him it needed to end. He said he would end it the next day; I said no, tonight. So we went together to his computer and he ended it. She ask if she needed to leave the guild and we both told her no, that we didn't want to hurt the guild by her leaving.
And here is my question or questions. Do you think I did the right think by not asking her to leave or not leaving myself? Or how do I get over something like this? They never were physically together. We live thousands of miles apart. This was just over the phone and the computer. But they did share things with each other that should have been meant for only me. I was very hurt by this. And since I found out and he ended the affair (that is what I call it), she has been really mopey in guild and raids. They do not talk anymore on the phone, and in game, it is only guild- and raid-related stuff. But she is still stuck on him, and she is almost 10 years older then him. I don't understand what I need to do about this. I was just wondering how you would handle this kind of situation. I would love to know what other WoW women would do if they found themselves in this jam. Please help! Brokenhearted Raider
Drama Mama Lisa: I am so, so sorry to hear of your troubles. I think it might help to step back for a moment and review our advice from Wife aggro two weeks ago. As with Aggrowifed, whose new wife was feeling threatened by his play schedule, World of Warcraft isn't really the root of your problem. You probably already know this -- so you have to also realize, then, that the solution won't be found there, either.It's not fair to anyone involved for the three of you to face one another regularly in your guild. This isn't about keeping up appearances or making concessions; it's about throwing a life preserver to your marriage in a murky sea where your husband is already sinking fast. By failing to end this affair after months of repeatedly being confronted about his behavior, your husband has already shown that he's unable or unwilling to moderate his contact with the other woman.
It's time for you and your husband to take a WoW holiday. If you think that continuing to spend time playing with your husband would be helpful to your relationship, you could try transferring or re-rolling on another realm. Since this affair has spread beyond the game's borders, however, it's not much protection from the other woman. She already knows plenty of ways to get in touch with your husband. You can bet that she'll find out where you've transferred, if she really wants to know. Best to simply make a clean break from the game. You and your husband need a new dynamic and fresh ways to relate to one another right now. Ultimately, the time you've been spending in WoW would be better spent in counseling and in pastimes that are exclusive to your partnership and family, working on getting your marriage back on track. Best of luck, Brokenhearted. Stay strong.
Drama Mama Robin: Brokenhearted, I really feel for you and you are not alone. This story is as old as online communication. Before MMOs, before chat rooms, there were BBSs. People with modems have been surreptitiously carrying on affairs while appearing to be busily working/playing at their computers for more than 20 years. Before WoW, it happened to a very close friend of mine in EQ -- she made me search the chat logs to confirm her suspicions. It was a painful experience for all of us.
I think it is important to face the harsh realities of your situation, so I'm going to be blunt and I'm sorry if it hurts.
Online romances are intoxicating. It feels like the minds are meeting and directly communicating intimate thoughts and feelings -- without the distractions of physical imperfections, unpleasant smells and annoying mannerisms. And the participants who are in committed relationships with others rationalize their behavior with "it's not cheating if we don't touch." You call it an affair because it is an affair. People can argue that they didn't have physical sex and therefore didn't cheat all they want. But the fact is that he spent time, resources and emotions on another woman in the place of spending these things on you.
So I ask you, what if the three of you belonged to a softball team or poker club together instead of playing WoW? Would you still be attending those functions and enabling interactions between those two? I know that physically seeing her would be harder than the virtual interaction, but the principle is the same. She is going to keep tempting your husband and even if he is now completely trustworthy (with the woman he was untrustworthy with so recently), he still will have the stress of having to constantly turn down her advances.
As Lisa said, this isn't a WoW issue. Though it happened in Azeroth, it wasn't caused by the game. But to answer your question, I highly recommend that you sever all contact with this woman. Unfortunately, even if you get her to leave the guild and you both put her on ignore, she can always get on an alt and whisper your husband that way. In fact, she's probably doing that already. So you need to decide whether you want to get her to leave the guild (risking alt contact) or transfer/reroll on another server without telling her or any of her friends where you are going.
There are many successful marriages that have survived a straying spouse and many horrible marriages that have never undergone cheating of any kind. I hope that you are able to achieve happiness again, whether you are able to work things out with your husband or not. Regardless, life is too short to allow that woman any more influence on your mental well-being. /hug
Drama Buster of the Week
If you've finally talked a friend into playing WoW, give it up and spend some time playing with him. Give him some bags and a five-spot to get started, and be available to answer questions via /whisper while he works out the basics. Once he starts gaining a little ground, try to block out time once or twice a week to play together. Cover his butt when he's ready to hit Hillsbrad. Offer to run him through Scarlet when he's high enough to get the quests. Invite him to five-mans when he finally dings 80. Your circle of friends just got a little tighter – enjoy!
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 5)
Krone Nov 29th 2009 5:01AM
Bah had this whole writeup about paranoia and trust and the interwebz ate it. Long story short: there is 2 sides to the story. I for one can't upfront believe in such a story since it is one-sided and speckled with interpreations (like the one above which I will comment on) and omissions.
"'Intimate' conversations when refered to in this kind of situation are like that.
He was cheating on her with in an internet affair, those things usually snowball and it was a good thing she caught it."
So any 'intimate' conversation I have (what is intimate?) is cheating on my significant other? And those 'things' usually snowball? Into what?
As always, somehow people interpret any relationship men or women have with the other gender as sexual and/or threatening. The problem is with the interpreters. There is more grey area than that.
Grey area or not though, lying about it is never a solution. It can be an explanation for behaviour other than hiding stuff because it's "bad". I've known a girl that was paranoid and her boyfriend loved her a lot. He lied to actually have a relationship with her since she was paranoid... Is he a bad man? Nah, not really.... right?
Irem Nov 29th 2009 8:52AM
No, the problem isn't with the interpreters.
The letter writer gave her husband the benefit of the doubt several times, asked him to moderate his behavior several times, and he was lying to her. Not because he felt he had to in order to work around her "paranoia", but so that he could keep having this relationship with the other woman in place of the one he should have been having with his wife (
jimbeem Nov 29th 2009 10:08AM
I have to say stop posting this crap if you cant stop playing warcraft after knowing you and your husband need help from being addicted to the game something is wrong just stop these articles they piss me off
Meg Nov 30th 2009 1:42AM
No one is forcing you to read them! :)
atlanna1 Nov 29th 2009 5:52AM
This one struck A a very sour chord with me. (this could eb a long one so bare with me)
Just over 18 or so months ago, my partner began playing WoW again after a break of about 6 months. This didnt bother me so much as I was more interested in the Xbox and internet forums at the time so I didn't resume my WoW activities at that point.
While she was leveling her toon from 1-70 she found a "leveling buddy". Fair enough. I know myself that soloing is as boring as hell. Over the course of a few months she became the GM of th guild and began to periodicaly ask to borrow my mobile phone which I had no problem with at the time as she was working and needed to be in contact because of our kids. after a fwe weeks/months I had occasion to need my mobile to send a text message to my eldest daughter so decided to check my inbox. Turns out she had';t deleted her messages that day and I was confronted by a rather steamy text.
I opted not to say anything at the time, instead I used a service provided by my mobile operator which stores all of my incoming and outgoing texts on-line. So I left it for a week or 2 to gather evidence, seek advice from trusted friends and legal advice on the matter (had to as there are 4 kids involved)
During this time she asked me if it would be ok if a "Friend" from the guild came around for one evening as he happened to be in the area. Begrudgingly i agreed, Hell, I needed to know just what i was going to be dealing wit (read going to war with).
Man did I get a nasty surprise. The guy was a total slime ball! and I'm not just saying that from a biased point of view, prior to this affair he had had a WoW wedding to a 13 year old girl and after this event he tried to cozy up to my partners best female friend in game as well as other sleazy goings on on our realm. when I say slime ball, this guy is the definition. Anyway, I digress. The day he went home.. (an evening turned into a weekend.. she thought i was none the wiser about what was going on. she forgot the fact that I set up her laptop and have all the access codes to emails, IM's etc as a result and had combed through the lot in an evidence gathering excersise just incase things had to go through the courts.).. She wandered back into the house, opened her laptop, logged into WoW and proceeded to act as if she'd done nothing more than go for a loaf of bread from the shops.. i.e. buisness as usual.
It was at this point I confronted her. the single biggest argument we have ever had, screaming, shouting the whole works. In the end i gave her the choice. Go with him, or stay with me. Either way the Kids were staying with me and there would be an injunction sought to keep Mr Slime 100 yards away from them at all time. and I also informed her of the advice given to me by my solicitor basicly leaviung her with no legs to stand on.
At least she was bright enough to realise that I wasn't messing around. I gave her 24 hours to make her choice and left it at that.
What a 24 hours it was.. Abusive phone calls and whispers from Mr Slime (all of which were recorded or screen capped) and police reports filed. but in the end she ended it with him and we began the slow process of rebuilding.
Things still arent 100% 12 months on but he's out of the picture... he's stil on the same realm (he was kicked from the guild at ultimatum time) but he now has a reputation of a womanising kiddie-fiddler so all is well that ends well (and before you ask, I had nothing to do with that rep getting around. That was due to previous and subsequent victims who aren't as skilled at holding their tongues)
It could so easily have been the end of our family but like it has been said previouly. these things start off innocently enough and there is always gonna be some manipulative SOB out there who will prey on someone going through a rough patch.
Rotties67 Nov 29th 2009 10:24AM
First and foremost I want to commend Drama Mamas on writing a column that will strike a nerve with so many people. I would venture to guess the majority of WoW has come into some sort of experience with things like this. Whether it be a real life relationship, WoW relationship, or just innuendos in /gchat. It may not be them directly, but seeing people cross that line of fun to "are they flirting now..." is one that is always there.
Our guild is strange, more females then males, and a lot of married couples. We have a TON of innuendos flying (mainly a 18+ guild, but not a requirement). For a while I was getting uncomfortable with the way one of the male single guildies was acting towards some of the married and otherwise involved females members. Now he would only do this when the spouse or significant other wasn't online. So we established a new rule. If you would not say something infront of the significant other (or to the significant other), then it was off limits. It is a great rule that has made everyone much more relaxed.
But I digress. I was thinking about this and how I would react if my wife had an emotional affair (which is what this was/is). To me, I think that would almost be worse then a strictly physical one. Here is why. Every time we had a disagreement, argument, whatever, I would be worried that she would be contacting this other person to talk things out instead of me. She would have emotional ties to someone else. Sharing that deep emotional bond that is supposed to be only for me....I dunno. I think that would be a harder thing to recover from. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying a physical affair would be any easier to recover from, but an emotional one would be tough to bounce back from as well.
Brokenhearted Raider, thinking this out from my perspective, I have the utmost respect for you. There is no way I would be able to stay on that server, let alone keep the other person in the guild. Knowing that there is a chance she could contact your husband again (or he could contact her to clear the air, whatever else) is too much for me. I wish you two the best. I hope the path you take is the right one for you and your family. If I can make a couple suggestions for you guys (make him read this too):
1. Take 30-60 mins a night and just talk the two of you. No kids, no TV, nothing but you two. Can be on the porch, on the sofa. Whereever. Just talk. About the day, your hopes, what you want to do in 1 year, 5 years, things to the house, etc.
2. Go on a date once a week. Get a sitter for the kids and go to a movie, go to dinner, go do the things you used to do when you first met.
3. Both of you need to start doing the little things you used to do. If he opened car doors for you all the time...he needs to start again. If you made him little notes and hid them in his pants pockets...do it. Little things like that people take for granted that now will make a world of difference in the rebuilding process.
4. This is the most important one, and only do it if you mean it. Everyday, look each other in the eyes, and tell each other you are in love and want to spend the rest of your life with only each other. And nothing will stop you from doing that.
Best of luck to you and your family. I hope everything works out for you.
Zalvi24 Nov 30th 2009 7:37PM
Well if a game and guildmates are more important than you husband and kids then u should take a look at yourself and take a step back from the game
Ajacks Nov 29th 2009 2:14PM
I agree wholeheartedly with Mr Angry's comment below. This article essentially has nothing whatsoever to do with WoW, but rather is a very telling indictment of the persons involved.
One wonders why they even considered marriage, if the plan was to spend an unhealthy amount of time with an online video game -- essentially using WoW to self-medicate rather than face the real world and all the difficulties it likes to throw at people (and relationships). I won't be so bold as to say any marriage steeped in online gaming is a sad, sad thing to behold (I'm only 20 for Christ's sake), but clearly the one in this article sure is.
Ladies, if you find yourself with a man who is desperate and selfish enough to disregard any concern for your well-being and start hooking up with random, cute-sounding girls through an online video game -- as it sounds like the pathetic schlep in this article was well on his way to doing -- I urge you to reconsider your sense of self-worth and realize that you DESERVE BETTER. There are guys out there who play video games, take care of their body and mind, and who have some sort of future ahead of them that does not involve ogling random women in chatrooms when they have a real-life relationship.
All in all, a very interesting article on a very interesting phenomenon!
Procris Nov 29th 2009 6:30PM
In this case, i really don't think it matters if she leaves the guild or not, they will still be on the same server and therefore could still whisper each other. I've heard of this kind of thing a lot from playing wow and it generally never ends well. In this case, the guy is playing with fire. He could lose his wife over something pretty un-meaningful.
Trish Nov 29th 2009 6:45PM
Just need to say, Drama Mamas is an excellent addition to this website. Thank you!
the other woman Nov 29th 2009 9:02PM
I once found myself on the other end of this situation. I never knew the guys wife, and I was never her friend. I dont know if that makes it worse or better. We never actually did anything, not even cyber touching. But there was something in the tone of our voices, and the things we spoke about which belied a much deeper connection than just friends. We mostly talked about him and his wife, how he wasn't happy. And how he felt like it was never going to get any better, and she was never going to make him feel whole again. It was the closest I've ever gotten to "cheating" with someone before. Even though I was single.
The whole thing made me feel so guilty I couldn't look myself in the mirror. Eventually we ended it. We both came to the painful realization that that we were crossing lines we didn't want to cross and that the only way to fix it, was to severe ties. We still speak once in a while, though it's only about game things now and nothing personal. Him and his wife are working on things, (what happened with him and I finally scared him enough he finally took the actions to try and fix his marriage he ought to have taken before he met me).
I'm dating someone else now and I dont let myself think about what ifs. I've come to think of what happened as 2 lonely people who met for the purpose of driving ourselves to fix the things about our situations neither one of us liked. Misery loves company I guess.
I dont know why I am sharing something so personal here. It just felt like something I needed to say. In your letter it sounded like you were demonizing the other woman. And while what she did was wrong .. it's an easy thing to happen when you're in a situation you feel you can't get out of. She may not of known it had gone too far until she was in over her head.
All you can do now is try and forgive your husband and work on establishing trust between you again.
As for the game -- I think it would be best if you 2 did take a break for a bit to work things out.
Marvelous Nov 30th 2009 11:36AM
If he doesn't (1) quit the game, or (2) leave the guild and transfer to a new server, he still loves her. Take from it what you want but that's the way it works. Sounds like he needs to "wake up" from a silly game and put some effort into his real life. And so do you.
L33T15T Dec 1st 2009 10:36AM
If you're married, you should NEVER spend more time connecting on an intimate level with anyone else other than your spouse, especially if you're attracted to them. That holds for real life and virtual life. The virtual community is even more dangerous because it allows your imagination to make the other person perfect and more attractive. It's okay to be attracted to other people; if you're human it's bound to happen. It's NOT okay to act on those attractions once you have committed to someone else.
However, unlike others who have posted, I do not believe that just because it happened once it will happen again.
Believe it or not, some people do live and learn. And everyone, if they truly have had a change of heart, deserves another chance. Some of the greatest relationships out there have come out of weathering the storms.
Lunaleska Dec 3rd 2009 9:53AM
Does no one ever got "husband aggro"?
Birdfall Jan 1st 2010 12:11PM
My husband and I played all the time and we had to quit the game for a while to fix our schedules. Sure we saw each other in game and even played in the same room, but that isn't actually time together.
I'm wondering why no one is adding "Change your character names" to "Switch servers." The main way to find you both is with an armory search, and it's better to cut that possibility off on the front end.
This is what I'd do:
* Let your guild leader know you're moving servers and why. If he's a blabber-mouth, fudge the details, but he needs a good reason for why you're leaving or he won't understand or support your decision.
* Move your characters without telling anyone else and change their names the MOMENT they're up on your new server.
* Post a goodbye to your guild on your old forums or whatnot. Be honest but vague. "Personal reasons," "unavoidable," and "nothing to do with the guild itself" are good lines. You need the guild leader to reply to your post with "They explained it to me and I fully support their decision" to make this work with the fewest hard feelings, but you'll survive if you have to go without it.
If you keep playing, I'd also (this may be just me) move my computer right next to my husband's so I could see all of his whispers and insist we only play at the same time. He already proved he can't be trusted with privacy, and if he wants your trust back he'll agree to compromise his privacy for your peace of mind.
And I agree with the idea of taking a WoW hiatus, though I think you should switch servers and names right before or after. On hiatus, focus on stuff your family can do as a group and use that monthly subscription money to help your marriage get back on track.
Good luck, Brokenhearted. My sympathies and prayers go out to you.