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11-30-2009 @ 1:30PM
"Today I am facing unrest in the guild as folks are unhappy that there is "never anyone online"Sounds like it's time to let the rest of the guild know that if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.EVERYONE needs to pitch in and do some recruiting. They can't expect the GM to do everything for them. And if they do, that is a sure sign that your guild will crumble.Advertise in local channels, guild recruitment, your realm forums, and even in PUGs if you see someone who is a good player that is not in a guild. Ask some of your members to step up to the plate and to the same. If all they do is whine that no one's on to run anything it may be time to move on yourself.
11-30-2009 @ 1:59PM
/second. If people are not on at the same time because of odd and widely varying schedules, that's one thing, but if they're not on because they're not logging in they can't complain that there's no one on when they DO. Oh and you can't have a social guild without people... Before you start raiding, check out your gear. If people need to improve, start by scheduling some heroic farming nights and get some badges and hence badge gear. This can be 2-3 heroics only - but doing that will get people in the groove of scheduled events. one thing that worries me though is that the GM says he/she ' do not want to dedicate 3+ days a week at 3-4 hours..." - but that's what raiding is. Oh, you can do just 2 nights, but if you're not interested enough in raiding to spend 3 nights at it.... i venture to say that you'll have issues. What you need to answer is this - "Why does this guild exist at all?" In my experience, guilds like yours only work if they're RL friends and family. Otherwise there needs to be some common in game thing that binds the guild members together.
11-30-2009 @ 2:14PM
I completely disagree that 3 nights a week is a minimum standard. Although our guild-sponsored runs have slumped (I posted on it further down in this thread), for a while we were clearing ToC10/Ony10 in *one* night. We used our second night to whittle away at Uld10. That was plenty.Even when I was in the 25-man progression guild, we ran 2 nights/week, and did fine. We weren't #1 on the server, but then, only 1 guild is. :D
11-30-2009 @ 4:09PM
My guild runs 2 nights a week, 3 hours per raid, so 6 hours a week. We are working on clearing ToGC10 and are currently #4 on guildox for our realm on strict 10 man rankings. And my server is an original server, with high population, and many 25 man guilds in the top 100.
12-01-2009 @ 1:01AM
I would ask the same question as Clevins above: "Why does your guild exist at all?"My gut feeling from your predicament is that it's time to pull the plug on the guild and move on. Free yourself from the hassles of recruiting and pleasing your guildies and just enjoy the game on your own schedule. Be the nice PuG that everyone else is looking for. Float around and meet new people that you wouldn't otherwise be meeting. Some may be jerks but some could become good new WoW friends.
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