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12-01-2009 @ 3:14PM
I don't really know what to make of this idea, gender discrimination really grates on me. But against an enemy like the teenage male I can see why you would take an isolationist stance. I suppose the existsnce of guilds like this are a sad inditement of the attitudes of many gamers than a form of intolerance in themselves.
12-02-2009 @ 10:19AM
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. It looks like they're seeking refuge from annoying teenage boys more then males in general, and I think they're sort of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. But I suppose it works. I think they'd have nearly as much success if they had an age limit too. Sadly as much as I find this entire concept annoying, nearly all my characters are un-guilded... because of annoying people... who are usually teenagers... who are male...So more power too them I guess.
12-03-2009 @ 2:42AM
Personally isolating yourself is fine, but isolating your self from a gender is discrimination.I know they're not trying to take a radical stance, but this kinda thing really gets to me. Reacting to a situation by banning men propagates the idea that all men are vile offensive slobs, which in turn gives men who act that way an excuse for their behavior. All their complaints are things that you could deal with by having guild rules about maturity.Even if its not intentional, this guild is part of the problem and not the solution.
12-02-2009 @ 3:48PM
"Reacting to a situation by banning men propagates the idea that all men are vile offensive slobs,"That kind of hyperbolic making of molehills into mountains is probably exactly what they're trying to escape. Maybe you didn't read the whole article, but she specifically said they've formed brother guild/s for the decent men they know and want to play the game with. They're clearly not discriminating against men, just assholes, which in WoW tend to be predominantly teenage boys. Handling this issue with any more precision (less broad discrimination) would be too time consuming for people who just want to play a game in a civil environment.
Byron, if they're just trying to escape the bottom dregs of the male element, why bother having a brother guild at all? Why not just combine the two guilds into one big one that operates on strict rules about maturity?The problem is that they have a policy of exclusion based on gender, not merit or character. That's discrimination, and tolerating discrimination in any form absolutely propagates the negative ideas that cause it.As for "Handling this issue with any more precision (less broad discrimination) would be too time consuming for people", tough shit. If this were an issue or race would you even consider making a statement like that? If they didn't admit homosexuals because gays cause all the drama and its easier to just say no gays, would you pass it off as acceptable? Hell no. Discriminating because its easier is one of the main reasons discrimination is so prevalent, and its not a valid excuse.
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