Guildwatch: "You guys raid like little girls"

Ok Blizzard. We give up. Patch 3.3 can come out now, please. Guilds are cleaning up even the Tribute achievements in Trial of the Crusader, and pretty much everybody is just sitting around waiting for Icecrown to drop. Even drama is taking a break -- with plenty of loot to go around and everyone getting what they want, nobody is actually fighting any more. Where's our crazy ninjas and raiding breakups? We need to get some new progression content, and soon!
Way too much "good" drama (including a daring emergency Vent call) in this week's Guildwatch, alongside the usual downed and recruiting notices. If you don't see something you like, you can help: send your tips about drama, downed (hopefully we'll see lots of Marrowgar downs next week), and recruiting news to guildwatch@wow.com. Meanwhile, this week's GW is after the break.
Way too much "good" drama (including a daring emergency Vent call) in this week's Guildwatch, alongside the usual downed and recruiting notices. If you don't see something you like, you can help: send your tips about drama, downed (hopefully we'll see lots of Marrowgar downs next week), and recruiting news to guildwatch@wow.com. Meanwhile, this week's GW is after the break.
DRAMA
- Noir on Fizzcrank celebrated their first anniversary by doing something a lot of guilds have done: sacking all of the Alliance cities. But they did went even farther than that, and took them all down at the same time. Darnassus, Exodar, and eventually Ironforge all fell pretty easily, but Stormwind had some trouble -- they sent two groups in, one to kill the king and one to assault the docks. But when they actually entered the Citadel, they found trouble waiting for them in the form of a group of Alliance who'd been tipped off about the raids. A few wipes and reinforcements from the attack on Ironforge, and the city eventually fell. Sounds fun -- congrats on the anniversary, Noir!
- The Stone Council (of the Alterac Mountains server), is holding their own celebration, for the Second Annual Founding Day. They're having all kinds of events, including a parade, a fashion contest, and naked dueling and drinking (with 3000g in prizes). Find out more on their site -- it's going on this weekend.
- We hear that OP from Haomarush-H transferred over to Jadenar recently. The reason? Lythium and a few other core raiders in the guild had issues with the guild's leadership and loot distribution. It's always something like that, no?
- Here's another good story (lots of those this week for some reason): The Cheese and Cracker Co on EU Hellscream ended up doing a raid for charity the other day. They were trying to get one of their raidleaders to switch specs from feral to a tree druid when he came up with the idea of saying he'd do it for a $5 donation to Children in Need, and then they decided to charge $5 to the whole raid when they did an old world Mount Hyjal run. It worked out well -- they raised over $160 from the whole crew, and we presume they beat the instance, too. Awesome!
- Man, the good stories don't stop coming -- where's all the drama this week? This one's about Åegis in Friends of Old on The Forgotten Coast. He was moving some heavy boxes around one day, fell, and broke his femur and hip bone. Ouch! He was in the basement, and the phone was too far away, so he dragged himself to his nearby computer, turned Vent on, and -- you guessed it -- asked his guildies to call his family so they could help. He went off to the hospital and is now home and recovering. Get well soon! And there you go -- having guildies willing to help is always a good thing.
- Last week, Barthilas ended up having not one but two different guilds going for A Tribute to Insanity on the same night, and they both got it. Right around 1:30AM, Noctis Erus got the achievement, and Gigantor picked it up at around 3:15AM (server time). Why is this in drama rather than downed? Because apparently Gigantor's GM was angry that NE was working on the achievement the same night -- a couple of hours before, the guild had instead decided to do an alt run, and if they'd skipped that and gone to progression earlier, they'd have had a realm first. Apparently there's a vent recording, but we're told that it has disappeared from the Internet. If someone can find it, feel free to post it in the comments below.
- This guy almost won me over -- he has a pretty respectable app, and he apparently did pretty well in the audition raid. But man, when the guild respectfully declines his application on page 2, he goes bonkers -- calls the guild a bunch of little girls, and starts attacking them and saying they're "WoW nerds." Now, that may be true, but there's nothing wrong with being a WoW nerd, and dude is definitely not guildie material if he's going to act like that. Think, the guild's GM, is exactly right: the guy's response to being passed over means that they made the right decision.
- Mock on EU Hellscream had their GM leave the game a little while back, and put the guild in the hands of Galad. But an exodus began soon after, most of the original raiders left the guild, and the guild became a slightly drearier place. Unfortunately, says our tipster, people who tried to leave the guild started getting pestered by Galad, specifically while applying to other guilds. Here's him showing up on one of the exiting raiders' applications, saying that the raiders never told him or even left the guild while applying to others. That's not quite so bad (people have differing opinions on the best way to leave a guild), but here another officer from Mock basically calls out another exiting guildie for claiming he wants to tank, and then applying to another guild as holy. As a result, the other guild declines the application. The applicant handles it well, but seriously, I'd say stay off of applications to other guilds -- if you have a problem with your guildie applying elsewhere, just kick them. They're probably going to leave anyway.
- Finally, we hear that Twinks of the World (a guild on Perenolde that has appeared in our recruiting section before) lost their GM and an officer a few months ago, and since then, the guild has been losing characters to /gquits and guildies just leaving the game or transferring realms. We're told the guild's current status has only three members active. RIP.
- Ascension of the Fallen on Perenolde-H has cleared 10-man Trial of the Crusader. They're still recruiting, too -- need healers and ranged DPS.
- Face on Fire of Bloodscalp recently downed Beasts and Jaraxxas in 25 ToGC, and they say Anub will probably be down by the time this goes up as well. Grats!
- Renaissance on Ravenholdt was mentioned in our drama section a while back, but they're coming back strong -- they've joined up with Clan Battlehammer, and as a result have jumped up to the top of the server, jockeying for server first on Heroic Anub'arak. They're recruiting, too: holy paladin, enhance and elemental shamans and locks. Apply on the site.
- After two weeks of wipes on the Faction Champs, Clan MacLeod on Norgannon-A nabbed the win. They one-shotted their way all the way up to Twins, who are on notice for next time.
- Zodiac Braves on Khadgar-H has been rolling in Heroic ToC 10-man -- they've taken out Twins and were working on Anub'arak last we heard. Big dead bug soon!
- Wrath of Medivh of Uldaman picked up A Tribute to Mad Skill on 10-man after they downed Anub with 48 attempts left (wipes on Jaxx and Twins). Rock on.
- The Millennion, an Alliance guild on Shu'halo, got a realm first 25-man Algalon kill early last month. Woot, grats!
- ARMADA is a recently formed guild on Blackrock that has downed Northrend Beasts and Jaraxxus in only eight attempts the very first time they stepped into Heroic ToGC. They even had about 10 pickups in the raid, too. Nice job. They are also recruiting -- visit the website to apply.
- Prodigy of EU Alonsus have downed Yogg-Saron (10 man) after a second week of attempts. Hard modes are being worked on, and Algalon is just around the corner. ToGC 10 is next. They're recruiting as well.
- After two wipes on Anub at 50k health, Balãnce of Haomarush-H has finally downed Trial of the Grand Crusader and picked up Tribute to Skill as well. Grats!
- Hope on the EU Agamaggan server downed Anub'arak in Trial of the Grand Crusader 10-man, and also got Tribute to Skill. They're recruiting DPS and tanks -- more on that on the website.
- Saints over on EU Nagrand(www.saints.me.uk) is a 10-man raiding guild that's one-shotted Onyxia, and are currently working through Ulduar. Naxx and EoE are down as well, and Sarth 1D recently. Nice job.
- Cataclysm on Mannoroth recently got the A Tribute to Insanity achievement on 10-man. They have both normal 10- and 25-man on farm, and are currently starting up work on 25-man Heroic and looking forward to Icecrown!
- Avarice of EU Azuremyst killed Algalon 25 the other week on the very first attempt of the evening, picking up the realm first title/achievement as well as the usual Algalon down rewards. Congrats!
- Dark Stalkers on Bloodhoof-H has finally downed Yogg and are now farming ToC-10! Just in time for the holidays.
- Daughters of the Alliance (a very casual female guild on Bronzebeard) has officially cleared all pre-Icecrown 10-mans with Yogg-Soron's passing. Grats, ladies!
- Paradigm Shift of Kel'Thuzad-A downed the first three bosses of 25-man ToGC, picked up Tribute to Insanity in 10-man ToGC, and finished up getting their 10-man Ulduar drakes. Sounds like a productive week.
- Fallen Aurora on Eonar downed Heroic Anub and got the Tribute to Skill. even though they only formed a few weeks ago. Congrats!
- Happy Ending on Dalaran downed Anub on 10-Man ToGC the other day. Woot.
- Random Axe of Kindness (oh man, I'm a sucker for puns, so they win the Best Guild Name of the week award) is recruiting over on Gorefiend-A. They're seeking dedicated healers, resto shaman, holy pally, and/or a holy/disc priest. Hunters and ele shamans are sought for DPS, and they'd like a possible main tank in the form of a pally or druid. They're 10-man and casual -- they do take raiding seriously but they don't forget to have fun, too. If you want in early on what seems like a solid raiding team, they're your peeps.
- Infinite on Alexstraza is looking for tanks, heals, and DPS for 10 and 25-man raiding. They've got some veterans, but need some new recruits to fill the team out. Hit up the website to apply.
- The Foot Clan from Anvilmar-H is a competitive semihardcore raiding guild. They're looking for more people to fill out the roster -- now accepting applications from all classes and specs. They've cleared Ulduar 10/25 and completed 12/13 of the hard mode achievements so far, and they're working on ToGC 25 as well.
- Jaded Retribution on Mug'thol-H is looking for more people to progress through ToGC 25 -- they're 3/5 so far, going for 5/5. They'd especially like people who are ready to attend raids. More details on the website.
- Last Chance on Tanaris-A is currently looking for geared and experienced raiders of all classes to help round out the core squad. They raid 25 mans twice a week in the evenings, and run 10-mans on weekends. They're 18+, but exceptions are taken on a case by case basis. Currently they're on ToGC and Ulduar, but are looking towards Icecrown soon. If you think you can "bring the pain," apply on their website!
- Edge of Chaos on Rexxar is a laid back guild that works toward progression without tearing the fun out of the game. They're currently seeking a full time tank, an ele shaman, and maybe a few mages. They're working on Heroic ToC in 10-man, but are heading to 10- and 25-man Icecrown soon.
- Smash Mode on Kilrogg-A is recruiting mature, friendly players to both fill out the regular weekly 10-man raiding team, and to provide a community for casual players who are interested in tackling content that's not necessarily raids. They've been around since vanilla, have most players in their early 20s and 30s, and are committed to helping out members with whatever they need, whether that be challenges, a fun social atmosphere, or coaching and help. All classes and roles are welcome.
- Revenge, an Alliance raiding guild on Doomhammer, is looking for a healer or two to round out their roster before Icecrown. They have plenty of priests, but really anything is welcome, especially a paladin. Apply on the website if you want to do a little Friday and Saturday raiding.
- Distinct Advantage of Exodar has cleared out Ulduar, ToC, and Northrend Beasts in Heroic. They're recruiting mature, honest folks to gear up for Icecrown, and if you have raid experience, that's a nice bonus. Healers and DPS wanted.
- Zen on Racencrest-H is now recruiting tanks, healers, and a few select DPS to ramp up for a push into 25-man content. They value self-motivated, outgoing raiders who wish to be a part of a community and not simply a roster. Your ability to communicate with and understand your peers is as crucial as your ability to learn and advance in your raid role, they say. All members are expected to heed the simple principle of respect in all aspects of their play.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
chyllyphylly Dec 2nd 2009 6:19PM
Cheese N Crackers raised £160 (as in pounds), not $160.
Its about 250 in american money
Clockwork Dec 2nd 2009 6:28PM
Even better! Man, that was creative thinking, and for a great cause. I approve!
Ed Dec 2nd 2009 6:30PM
@This guy almost won me over Did you not read how nasty the GM was? That GM was the definition of unprofessional and sorry. I was expecting to see some ranting punk kid but i was so shocked my the lack of professionalism by the GM i stopped reading just to post here before i read the shammy reply.
So this is a pure post, i can only imagine how bad the shammy was, but the GM, my god, why give them the time of day HERE. Talk about punk kids.
Ed Dec 2nd 2009 6:33PM
OK yea, I read it all, That Shammy was very professional at all points and the GM was a complete ass in his rejection yet you do not see that, you side with the GM? I don't get it at all.
Ed Dec 2nd 2009 6:36PM
You know, i'm just gonna take it back and say all around , people don't know how to treat each other.
Kurash Dec 2nd 2009 6:43PM
The applicant was professional? How exactly is "PS. you guys raid like little girls.
if you dont understand what i mean. i actually mean u guys are pretty shit" professional?
Also, while grammar nitpicking isn't a make or break kind of deal, poor punctuation and spelling are definitely unprofessional: it shows that you can't be arsed to do it correctly, that the application isn't important enough to you to do well.
I was cheering the GM on, myself. He was, under the circumstances, quite civil in my opinion.
Galtar Dec 2nd 2009 7:07PM
No actually he was professional, he explained to the app why he was passed over, it was the app who took the low route. I have seen many a time apps go on one run and its am I in, am I in, etc. Yes it sucks waiting to find out, but if your in it for the long run you can be patient, unfortunately most players don't have that sort of patience. And it would carry over from the app process to loot, etc if he ended up getting in more than likely.
Though I think the gm should've just locked the thread once he said that the app was denied, would've saved a lot of time and hassle.
Jeff Dec 2nd 2009 7:24PM
The applicant was a whiny punk, there's no disputing that. But the GM didn't handle it well either.
The right thing to do would be to tell the app he was declined, maybe explain why respectfully. The GM did those things, but then he missed the final step: Locking the thread and dropping the issue.
Instead, he kept the thread open and continued to egg the whiner on. I get that it's tempting in those situations to keep arguing with the kid who's clearly wrong, but it's impossible to win, and the real "high road" is to explain why he was declined, and move on.
William Dec 2nd 2009 8:13PM
10 bucks says Ed is actually the rejected shaman app from the thread, here trying to scrounge up what little dignity he has left.
Verdian Dec 2nd 2009 11:09PM
To be fair, the GM took over a week (from the shammy's first trial raid) to decide whether the app was approved or not. This is not an excessively long period of time, though the entire process, from application to rejection took 14 days. Again - this is not a long time in WoW, however the GM has stated (on the Application Guide on their website) that he will reject applicants that apply elsewhere simultaneously. Two raid lockouts is a long time to wait to hear back from a GM when you could potentially be applying to other guilds.
This issue was raised here a little while ago, and I don't believe that there is any consensus over it, however if you're going to stop applicants/trials from applying to other guilds at least have the decency to give them a straight answer without excessive delay and saving them during 2 lockouts.
Evalus Dec 3rd 2009 2:56AM
@ Ed
I have to disagree with you. Like what the others have said, the applicant is the unprofessional one. Insulting the guild that he was applying to is hardly mature. I feel that the GM did the right thing.
That 30 year old guy acting like a whiny kid. I have seen teenagers more mature than him... According to the forums, he kept pestering the GM whether he could make it into the guild. That was why they rejected him.As the GM said, "We didn't reject you because you weren't a big enough "wow nerd". We rejected you as a person." Meaning, they did not reject his dps and playstyle, just his bad, childish, immature, idiotic attitude.
The GM was the mature one. And of course he retaliated. Even then, the GM retaliated in a clam, civil way. Anyhow, wouldn't you feel annoyed to have someone calling you a "loser", "wow nerd", etc?
Alanid Dec 3rd 2009 1:21PM
@Ed, you're an idiot, bye.
Was that professional? It wasn't and it's in in the same form that the applicant would have said. Obviously you didn't read it properly. The GM was fair and explained everything to the applicant and his response was "omg wow nerd, i will not take advise from wow nerd, go live a life". Which was more professional? I think you know. Goodbye kind sir. We shall not speak again.
Valt Dec 2nd 2009 6:34PM
Ok seriously you need to consider adding new category to this article series. Ive been reading this since wrath started and everytime theres good news its slapped to "drama" section. *confused* its not like there is not allowed to have "good news" section or something.
Imnick Dec 3rd 2009 9:57AM
Good things can be dramatic too
Renako Dec 2nd 2009 6:35PM
It's spelled Jaedenar! :|
gatesw81 Dec 2nd 2009 7:23PM
Go do more Ulduar... Wowprogress still only shows "The Descent into Madness (H): 9545 (30.25%)" vs the "Call of the Crusade (25): 19914 (63.11%)" Plenty of "progress" to make still not even to mention hard modes in Ulduar... We need more Algalon Kills "Observed (H): 1258 (3.99%)"
vanye111 Dec 3rd 2009 8:51AM
Someone on Thrall got Algalon last night, about 9:50p. The sky effects were pretty cool.
adam Dec 2nd 2009 7:23PM
I just want to correct it Last Chance on Tanaris raids 3 nights a week Tuesday Wednesdays Thursdays
What's up David? Dec 2nd 2009 7:28PM
Lol, that rejection thread was amazing. This just shows, that just because someone can fill out an app nicely, it doesn't translate into them being a good selection.
cowfodder Dec 2nd 2009 7:28PM
From the application thread linked:
"SweetieBird wrote:
Which guild was JFK in? Was he a holy paladin?
Must've been a clothie, he got one-shot.
I'm going to hell, aren't I?"
So messed up, but so funny!