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by Alex Ziebart 
Dec 3rd 2009 at 4:00PM
Good afternoon, everyone! As you can see above, I'm pretty much at a loss as to what to write as the intro today. When you write one of these things every other day for, oh... eternity, it gets pretty hard. So I'll pass the intro on to our Editor in Chief today.
Elizabeth Harper wrote...
Welcome back to the Queue, in which Alex is too lazy to write his own intro. So today we've decided to crowdsource it and take one random word from each member of the WoW.com team.
Those currently online managed to assemble the phrase, "Delicious pants ibuprofen." Now, on with The Queue.
Mordockk asked...
"Do you gain Ashen Verdict Rep from the 10man instance as well as the 25? Any daily quests associated with it?"
There are no daily quests associated with it, no. You do get reputation from both the 10 and 25 man versions of the dungeon though. I might be horribly mistaken on that second point, but I'm 99% sure I've got it right. If one of you readers can prove me wrong, please do. I welcome it.
Chris asked...
"I haven't done any playing on the PTR, is there going to be a flightpath to the Icecrown Citadel instances?"
No, there's no new flight path to those instances. You need to take your flying mount there, or be summoned at the summoning stone. It's not terribly hard to get there once you actually figure out where the instance portals are, though. Either fly there manually from one of the other Icecrown flight points, or mount up in Dalaran and fly straight there.
VelcroLizard asked...
"If patch 3.3 is set to come out next week, why hasn't there been a trailer. Doesn't Blizzard usually put out a trailer before every major content patch?"
We rarely get the trailer far in advance of the patch itself. In fact, the Patch 3.1 trailer, the lead-in cinematic for Ulduar? We didn't get that until 10 PM Eastern time the night before the patch. About five hours later, servers were down for maintenance. That was all the advance notice they gave about the patch dropping, and they didn't even explicitly say it when they gave us the trailer. They let everyone stew.
Who knows, this time around we might not get the trailer until they're already patching. I don't think they have any rules about when they show us these things.
Slaytanic asked...
"Any word yet on when Blizzard is going to institute the deadline to obtain the Ironbound Proto-Drakes?"
Nothing yet. They did say we would get roughly a one month advance notice when they do it, though. We don't have anything to worry about for awhile. I can't say this is absolutely true, but I get the feeling that they're watching closely how many people are getting their mount and are waiting for a certain percentage of the playerbase to get their hands on it. I don't know very many people that finished the previous tier of drakes, so maybe they don't want a repeat of that.
Again, that's just my interpretation of the situation.
Ian asked...
"Do you have to run the 3 new 5-mans right in a row, or can you come back to the second one after you clear the first mini-instance later in the day with a different group, or are you stuck with the group you have until the daily reset? In other words, does each of the three wings have its own lockout timer? Also, how long does it take to do all three wings back to back?"
Each 'wing' of the instance is a separate dungeon entirely. So yes, each one has its own lockout. To use a pretty classic example, it's just like Scarlet Monastery. There's three "mini" instances right in a row. Clearing one has no impact on the other, except for perhaps quests and narrative.
As for how long it takes... well, it will completely depend on your gear level. I've only done them on PTR premades (which are only slightly better geared then my main, actually) and it's pretty darn fast. I would say maybe the Pit of Saron will take you more than 30 minutes, but the other two won't. An hour and a half to do all three? Around there.
Chaoticwhizz asked...
"Are demonology warlocks viable for endgame instances or PvP? I really like my felguard."
Sure. In 5-mans, your spec doesn't matter too much at all, as long as you can fill your chosen role. In a raid, Demonology brings some strong buffs and debuffs to the table that free up some of your other raiders to do other things. Make sure you check our our warlock column, Blood Pact. He's covered some of these details for you, including those buffs I just mentioned.
PvP, I want to say yes because of things like Soul Link, but it's been so long since I've done any arena PvP that if I told you I knew for sure, I'd be lying. Hopefully someone can help out in the comments below. Dear readers, is Demonology still viable in PvP?
Omner asked...
"I recently joined the elite community of iPhone owners and the second app I downloaded was the Battle.Net authenticator (the first was the WoW armory). I linked up the authenticator with my main's account, that has guild bank access and most of my gold, but I also share my girlfriend's account which is starting to show some promise. Is there any way to link the authenticator to two different accounts at the same time?"
Yes, you can add one authenticator to multiple accounts. As many accounts as you want, even. Just repeat the process with each account, using the same authenticator serial key for all of them.
However, if it's your girlfriend's account, be warned that she'll need your mobile authenticator every time she wants to log in. You might be better off getting her one of her own, unless you're there with her literally every time she logs into the game.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 6)
machoflaco Dec 3rd 2009 4:12PM
I've seen some great demonology locks in raids too. All roles are great if the player knows what he's doing. And the sp buff that demo locks give is great for healers.
mike Dec 3rd 2009 4:13PM
Could you describe the three new dungeons a bit more? Like where they are geographically in Icecrown. Also I know you have to do one of them to unlock the others, but which one and is it a quest or you just have to complete the dungeon.
mike Dec 3rd 2009 4:15PM
Well Darias inadvertently answered part of my question so just scratch that part.
Darias Dec 3rd 2009 4:17PM
When facing Icecrown Citadel from the front, if you flight up and to the right of the main citadel, there is an opening on the second level that you can into. There will be 3 instance entrances. Forge of Souls (1st one unlocked) on the left, Pit of Saron (requires FoS completed to unlock) on the right and Halls of Reflection (requires PoS to unlock) in the middle.
mike Dec 3rd 2009 10:09PM
Is there any quest attached to that?
Wrendil Dec 3rd 2009 4:14PM
Nice pic of the elusive "work chatroom" that you guys hang out in! I know of this because Rossi wouldn't let me n the blog guild without asking Robin first :P
MensreaJim Dec 3rd 2009 4:15PM
Re: Demonology: Deep demonology is not viable for serious PvP right now. I'm sure someone will link some Felguard Gladiator now, but in general, no. You can go deep in Afflic or Destro and still get soul link, which is what everyone does now. Destro is generally considered better now on most comps, but there are lots of high-rated Afflic warloks.
As for PvE, Demonology is not viable for personal DPS, but it is very good for raid DPS/Healing. It's sort of like the old Survival spec hunter: You want one (and only one), with lots of Spellpower (as opposed to agility, of course) for Demonic Pact (which buffs the spell power of all raid members by 10% of your spell power following a pet crit).
Rexton Dec 3rd 2009 4:16PM
I don't recall there being a video for 3.2 and a quick googling shows nothing for "WoW 3.2 video."
donz Dec 3rd 2009 4:21PM
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/implemented/3p2.xml#callofthecrusade
StalkerofFlames Dec 3rd 2009 4:29PM
There was, a pretty lame one in my opinion, not sure WHEN it came out but it showed the argent crusade announcing the tournament in Dalaran then a quick series of images of some Horde raiders from the PTR fighting the first bosses.
Rexton Dec 3rd 2009 4:33PM
Huh. Never saw that when it came out. Thanks Donz!
ObiChad Dec 3rd 2009 4:49PM
It's on this page.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/implemented/3p2.xml
Alanid Dec 3rd 2009 5:05PM
Thats because there isn't one. Which is strange since after the wrath gate they said that each chapter/patch would have its own cinematic. Here's hoping that ICC has 2 to make up for it.
Alanid Dec 3rd 2009 5:08PM
MY bad, I meant like the wrathgate cinematic... yeah there was a trailer for 3.2 it just wasn't advertised very well.
chopnfat Dec 3rd 2009 4:33PM
How do you acquire Quelderar? Who drops the first piece and what are the drop chances? Is it only in heroic mode?
Wolftech Dec 3rd 2009 4:57PM
The quest to obtain Quel'Delar starts from an epic drop in the 5 mans called "Battered Hilt". This starts a long quest chain the ends with you getting one of 4 version of Quel'Delar or a mace for those of you who can not use swords.
ddyess Dec 4th 2009 11:05AM
As a follow-up, is this a one-time-only quest, or could I do the questline twice to get weapons for both my healing and tank specs?
Zalvi24 Dec 3rd 2009 4:34PM
Knowing that we are gonna be able to fly in azeroth in cata(at level 85 or so) do u think theres going to be a high demand on lvl 1-450 herbs leather and ore for the new born races?, i currently have alchemy and herbalism with my main, i was just wondering if it was worth dropping alchemist and picking mining, and 2nd question, are there any indication that alchemist are getting new stones in 3.3? (sorry if this questions been answered already
Sicadastra Dec 3rd 2009 5:21PM
My prediction is a plummet in the old world ore/metal and herb markets due to the dramatic shift in ease of farming. Today thorium tends to have the highest market value on most servers, in large part due to the relative difficulty in farming it. Since ore is ultimately infinite the only real market pressure in opposition to demand is human laziness... flying equals easier.
jasonkidd1234 Dec 3rd 2009 4:34PM
3.2's video came out AFTER the patch if I remember right, so holding your breath for a launch video BEFORE the patch might lead to suffocation.
In other news, I'm assuming the 5 mans will be simular to 5 toc.
The regular versions will be doable with Heroic gear (hopefully) or H-ToC gear (Much like H-ToC is doable with heroic/reg ToC gear) and the heroic versions will probably require gear from H-ToC and the regular versions of the instances.
That's how I see it, though. It seems they are wanting to keep 5 man content viable for people like me who don't have time to raid, and simply want to run five mans. So ideally you could get from Heroics/Reg ToC> H-ToC> Reg Icecrown Five mans > Heroic Ice Crown five mans.