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12-05-2009 @ 7:19PM
"And you can absolutely tank normal dungeons without being prot depending on gear. Soon after wrath launched, I ret-tanked about every normal northrend dungeon before hitting 80 (and healed them as shadow on my priest)."Soon after wrath launched.Like before they removed spiritual attunement from being baseline and made it a talent?It is almost impossible to do it now. I am sitting in almost all 25 man totc gear and I experimented with not switching specs and just tanking in that gear as ret. Not viable. I was OOM even with judges every 5 seconds. Threat was a major issue too as I was shield smacking for almost nothing.I leveled as prot from my first talent point folks, I did the AoE leveling thing, and was okay, but the changes to SA are hard to deal with. Until you get it, you are drinking every pull. Heck prior to the changes in Enhancement I tanked some instances, it wasn't pretty or fun, but it was possible.I still want to see how he recommends tanking. If it boils down to "drink after every pull" I'd argue to not bother and let everyone deal with a faster experience and let a bear or warrior tank.
12-05-2009 @ 10:58PM
downrated or not, mana is a huge issue for lowbie paladin tanks. with SA now a moderately deep prot talent, mana issues will be even bigger than before. blessing of sanctuary can help at level 30 (somewhat), and there is judgements of the wise in the ret tree (level 42 for maxed ranks).don't be surprised if you're forced to use seal of wisdom or drink very frequently at low level. sure, sealing wisdom causes less threat than righteousness or command, but being oom puts a damper on threat too...
12-06-2009 @ 9:05PM
@angus......look when they change the name of this article to "Tanking ToTGC at 80 with ret' everyone will agree with you....but your just flat out wrong in regards to tanking at low levels.Boomkins oom easy, priests and mages will too, untill after BC most mana classes are still not very mana effecient (compared to themselves at lvl 80) people will be drinkin anyways. Just grab some drinks, "mabye" a pot or two and you will do fine. all in all if they have to wait 10 sec extra for you to drink once every pull or two....thats why it un viable?So what your saying, is if u wanna do SM-Lib, there is no prot/bear spec available to tank it, and u have both a tank set and some drinks...you should just pass on it because it may take 5-8 mins longer to do than if u had a prot spec'd warrior.......yea i can see your logic....NOT!
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