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12-12-2009 @ 9:04PM
So it's not possible to tank instances as a Ret paladin up to, say, level 60 or so?
12-12-2009 @ 9:37PM
It is possible, as long as you have good enough heals and good enough gear. At the lower levels it is especially possible, but once you get past 30 or 40 I would not recommend it. Also I would not recommend saying that you can tank using the new dungeon finder system while only having ret spec, unless you know the healer personally and they're okay with it. You won't have a problem with threat considering that a good ret could challenge a poor prot in terms of threat. If you throw up righteous fury you should be golden.
12-12-2009 @ 10:55PM
Honestly? Its really dependent. I've ret-tanked Horsemen, Coren Direbrew, and Svala from H-UP (not by choice on the latter of the 3, tank went down and i was the only plate).I do not recommend tanking in ret though, early dungeons maybe, but you need to have a sword and shield and plate with stam (shouldn't be that hard though at early levels). I healed a group for blackfathom depths, and the tank had on healing heirloom shoulders and a green two-hander axe with just strength. I asked if he was tanking in that gear, then he tells me he's Dps now, and that Righteous Fury is a Dps talent.Thats not a paladin to rely on, when he can't tell the difference between a spell and its use, even when it should be obvious to someone whose had an 80 and had to of run groups to get the shoulders in the first place.Ret tanking is far from viable in current raids, but in a pinch a ret pally in good gear can serve as a replacement tank for a short time in dungeons and maybe raids, because of their baseline shield-wall and self-healing
12-13-2009 @ 12:27AM
If you're at around level 60 and using a ret spec, might as well hand over the tank role to someone with a tank spec.I'm not saying it's impossible to tank as ret, I'm just saying you're making everyone in the group work harder.Also, if you're using the new LFG feature, please show up with a shield. I just had a warrior show up with a vendor bought 2-hander who checked the tank box.
12-13-2009 @ 8:21AM
I pointed out it is difficult to do this and I was curious as to what he was going to say about this in the last article. I got downvoted into oblivion. He hasn't covered this much here.The problem with tanking is that until you have something to cover your mana bar vanishing like spiked punch at a prom, you are not holding threat for long. I guess this isn't as big of an issue anymore as my rogue had a tankadin in a level 30 instance (thank you new lfg) and the things just didn't last long enough for us to care. But if we weren't sporting insane gear I think he would have had those issues. As it was he drank every other pull anyway. As someone pointed out below, they can do it in lower levels and are okay, but I am still not thinking it is the best idea.By level 60 you should probably just be rolling as Ret or grab a proper tank spec. At that point you can just let the DKs tank with their 2-handers and not worry about it.
12-15-2009 @ 12:43AM
Yeah, the reason why the bar goes down so fast too Angus is because they removed Spiritual Attunement from the baseline skills, so while we used to get it around 20 (if I remember correctly), we now have to wait longer, and spec into prot as well (which means having to dual spec if you aren't going to just be running dungeons 24/7 while playing WoW).
1-09-2010 @ 10:28PM
I tanked my palli up to @35 as Ret (not that spec matters so much under 40) before re-speccing to Prot, and I got hooked on Seal of Command (in fact, it's still my favorite tanking seal). Spreading out the holy damage from every hit is great in low-mid level PuGs (especially with AoE DpSers). The combo of Seal of Command, Consecration, and Righteous Fury makes holding aggro much easier.
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