It's hilarious seeing the bad players just quit the group if they see the Oculus loading screen. They'd rather take the 15 minute debuff rather than complete the dungeon in 10-15 minutes. Oh well, weeds out the bad players from ruining my gaming experience which is a good thing.

@ Knob: after wiping three times in a pug oculus, i can see why people would rather take the 15 min debuff and go get a sandwich. i will be doing that myself whenever oculus pops up. i used to like oculus but there's a barrier now for some reason, with the random group thing. i think it's because before, if you spammed trade LFG for oculus (or the h daily, which happened to be oculus), people would jump in the group knowing what they were getting into (and often knowing whether they could or could not do the dungeon). now, you get people that have never been in there before, that weren't expecting oculus.

anywho, as to bad experiences, the worst so far is rude people. very, very, very rude people. i've learned humor doesn't work with them, neither does sarcasm, neither does politeness. from now on, i'm just going to say the general greeting and then nothing. i will also be more liberal with my "vote to kick" next time people are being jerks.

I leave when it's Oc. I've also left when it was H-ToC (on my undergeared healer) and when it wanted my bear to tank Pit and I wasn't geared enough for it. (Boomkin is geared, bear is not.)

I leave when it's oc because I hate the dungeon. It's a mess of flying around and using abilities that I don't care for. In addition, I wait out the 15 minute debuff by hopping to an alt and running another dungeon :-p

I have noticed Oc comes up an awful lot though. WHen it's not that, it's been AN or OK almot 90% of the time.

My experience running occulus with the random pugs has been less than stellar so far. Few either know how to do the end boss, use the drakes right, or can agree how to do the end boss, because there's various methods spread across the realms.

I've reached the point where I leave the party when I see the Occulus loading screen, because I don't want to waste the time in the dungeon along with the repair bills from the last boss. Thanks but no thanks.

Dear Cyclone battlegroup. Please get your S**t together.

To be honest, I find it surprising that you have problems with Oculus after 3.3. The place is so nerfed beyond all reason that I firmly believe that if you'd ended up with the same group in any other dungeon it wouldn't have been a pleasant experience as well. I was on the same boat in that I was wondering how Oculus would turn out but every single Oculus pug I have had has been quick and painless.

I'm very grateful for this new feature. Been refer a friend leveling a pal new to the game. We pretty much skipped the dungeons so I could show him around Azeroth.

Now I finally got to show him some good raiding mechanics, what to do and what not to do. What a group with a fail tank looked like. What he can do, since he wants to tank, to properly set the pace, etc. All sorts of good and fun stuff.

The level 50-60 dungeons got him interested in some lore action.

So far the fun meets have been a priest that walked into oter random areas and pulled things they wanted to kill and skin then complained when they died every time, and 3 lvl 58 dks in one group all insisting they could tank, one insisting they could also heal themselves, dying repeatedly to random trash as we properly pulled elsewhere.

I am also surprised of people having trouble with Occ. I ran it for the first time ever on my undergeared alt in a PuG. One of the other players was kind enough to tell me what to do and we did it just fine. The second time I did it, we got 2 achievements on the last boss.

I got hit with a LFG finger Occulus run yesterday. Everyone that zoned in started b*tching and moaning about "blizz hates us... why oh why occulus"

While my teammates may have been crybabies, they stuck with it and we ran through there so quickly and smoothly... not a single death... and one-shot everything in there. We didn't even bother to waste time fussing over who does which drake color -- we all just kinda winged it and went with whatever color we had picked up to fly us between the platforms.

At the end of the instance everyone was pleasantly surprised. Don't be afraid to try new things -- that's the idea of a random dungeon pug. If you don't like a truly RANDOM dungeon, you shouldn't be wasting spaces in the queue.

I have had an easier time in cross-server Oculus pug runs. Maybe it's because people who stick through the loading screen know they can do it? (Whereas most people doing it when it was just on my server were just finishing a meta or doing quests?)

Oops, never mind; just saw the link saying Oc had been nerfed. So that was probably some of it at least.