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12-17-2009 @ 8:29AM
So one mark against this system of BoA Emblems is players with many high-level alts being able to grind heroics on all characters to generate enough emblems to max out their main. That's a problem if you make Emblems of Frost/Triumph BoA. But what if you just made Emblems of Heroism BoA? That way if you wanted to pass Emblems around, you had to downgrade them. Emblems of Heroism can still be used for getting decent introductory raiding gear (for introductory raids) and also for buying PVE Heirlooms. So players are able to consolidate low-level Emblems to help out alts, but can't consolidate top-level emblems to game the system.
12-17-2009 @ 8:37AM
this. Best of both worlds solution.Side note: When did Hodir shoulder enchants become BoA? !
12-17-2009 @ 8:49AM
12-17-2009 @ 9:11AM
I could see the concern about frost emblems, but triumph? With the new LFG system, triumph emblems are so trivial to farm that 232 gear is the new bare minimum for what to expect in a raider. ilvl 200 epics might as well be greens. Nobody is gaming the system by farming triumph emblems on their main and passing them to alts.However, are frost emblems really a big deal? How many people are really going to do that, and do you think that puts them in a highly advantageous position? Whoopie-doo, they'll get their entry t10 set a little bit earlier.
12-17-2009 @ 9:12AM
I would say that one badge level lower then the top dropping badge would be better...so in this case conquest would be the new BOA badge. If you think about it you're going to be trying to keep your dps up with people that are 2 to 3 badge levels higher then you god forbid you try to keep aggro over someone in your Ilvl200 gear. If anyone remembers this is much the way PVP gear was back in BC last seasons gear was the new honor grind gear, plus Ilvl 200 pointless when you can just go do ToC and have all that shiny new badge gear replaced in a few hours. Just my two cents.
12-17-2009 @ 11:09AM
"So one mark against this system of BoA Emblems is players with many high-level alts being able to grind heroics on all characters to generate enough emblems to max out their main."I'm having trouble understanding this concept. How is grinding 100 triumph on my main any different from logging into 4 toons and grinding 25 triumph each? It takes the same amount of time. The only way having multiple alts becomes an advantage is if the highest tier badges (frost) are BoA. Simple solution: current tier emblems are NOT BoA and everything else is.I don't see how consolidating Triumph badges across my alts is "gaming the system". If I spend 2 hours farming badges it shouldn't matter which toons I use. I still spent the time.
12-17-2009 @ 12:11PM
@ T0xicI think the concern is directed more towards alts who just dinged 80, haven't run any dungeons or raids with that class and getting decked out in full T9 gear. Would you want to raid with that guy? I agree that it isn't game breaking or anything, but it's a cause for concern.One huge advantage though is that it might increase the amount of tanks and healers in the LFG dungeon finder. Why wait in the queue with your DPS when you could go in instantly with your alt tank and transfer the badges later?
12-17-2009 @ 12:59PM
@Stravo"One huge advantage though is that it might increase the amount of tanks and healers in the LFG dungeon finder. Why wait in the queue with your DPS when you could go in instantly with your alt tank and transfer the badges later?"That was my thought. My druid healer (main) is geared out in 232-245. I have very little reason to do random dungeons other than for the frost badges on the first run. I think this has the effect of tanks and healers getting what they can from the Triumph vendor and then leaving the system (e.g. over time we see less "mains" in the queue and more alts that aren't quite as geared/skilled).Give the "mains" incentive to stay in the queue to gear up their alts and it will make grouping in PUGs a little less painful for everyone.
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