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12-22-2009 @ 4:57PM
It really is amazing how often that happens. My first guild was very inclusive from the get go, but still managed to relatively hard core. We raided all the time, but weren't all that concerned with our place on the server. (Case in point: Many guildies would have put the "Night of the 2 MC runs (ayup, 80 people)" second only to the guild's first Nef kill.After drama killed that guild (the inevitable schism between progression and not), I decided that I was done with that stuff. I leveled my pally to 70 and joined a guild that was supposed to be "casual." We had raid nights and such, but it wasn't supposed to get too serious. All of a sudden, though, we moved from a "few nights a week" to "every night and if you miss 2 raids in a week you are banned from loot until you attend 4 raids consecutively." It was a bummer.After quitting for a while, I realized that I missed playing the game. I came back and joined a guild consisting of 4 total members. I still play alot, but the very casual structure allows me to do what I want (generally through PUGs) without the forbearance of constant attendance.
12-23-2009 @ 11:23AM
The "staying casual" part is actually a LOT harder than it sounds. As soon as it looks like people are doing well, you start to see fancy gear dangled in front of people like a carrot and it goes downhill from there. At some point it seems like every guild that starts to do well comes to a crossroads and has to decide if they are actually going to stay casual. Usually this requires multiple instances where the GM/officers pull back from raiding. I've only seen one guild actually do this.
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