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12-30-2009 @ 6:33PM
See here's my view on the Alliance.First, it was a "human" who was manipulated and opened the portal for the orcs to invade.Second, it was a "human" who took up Frostmourne and released zombie hell on Azeroth.Third, the Alliance are well known for being racists towards species, especially "humans".Forth, it was a "gnome" that backstabbed me in Wintergrasp!See! The Alliance are evil!!!NERF THE ALLIANCE!
12-30-2009 @ 7:02PM
12-30-2009 @ 7:07PM
Your first "human" Medivh was possed by Sargeras and was being "manipulated" by Ner'zhul who himself was being deceived by Kil'jaden.Your second "human" Arthas picked up a demon forged blade that stole his soul in a misguided effort to defeat his foes who was again "manipulated" by Ner'zhul after being further corrupted and controlled by Kil'jaden.Your third point...what is this I don't even....Other factors than "humans bad" are at play here, either you don't know the story beyond the surface or you're just being silly.
12-30-2009 @ 7:15PM
Well first it was a demon-possessed human who opened the portal for demonically influenced Horde to come through, so that point is moot.Second, the human who unleashed zombie hell was influenced by an undead orc allied with the Burning Legion (Ner'Zhul), so that point also goes away.Third, I'm sure the Alliance is racist in the same sense the Horde is; they both want to kill or dismantle opposing species. They harbor very little, perhaps almost no racism toward members of their own faction. The Horde, on the other hand, seems to be going in the opposite direction if the rumors about Grom kicking Trolls out of Ogrimmar or Carine's death turn out to be true. Another point taken out. I fail to see how this makes the Alliance "evil"(And yes I'm quite aware you could be sarcastic, but if the WoW forums have given any indication, there are an unsettling number of people who think like this.)
12-30-2009 @ 7:35PM
Garrosh. Not Grom. Garrosh.Grom just drank some demon blood which made him crazy. Thus he is partially excused. Garrosh has no such insanity brewing within him, and is just a jerk. He's not indicative of your typical orc though.
12-30-2009 @ 8:24PM
Grom was a crazzed lunatic who attacked people without justification and damned his entire race. He was a combination of the worst aspects of Daelin Proudmoore and Captain Garithos. He commited gleeful genocide against the peaceful draenei before he drank Mannorath's blood, and he tried to do the same to the humans after drinking it. Just because he hauled off and lodged his axe in a pit lord's chest doesn't mean he was a worthwhile person. There's a whopping two families of orcs who managed to not be bloodthirsty monsters. The Saurfangs, and Durotan's immediate family. Pretty much every orc the the Horde vennerates and names stuff after outside of those two groups was a mostly evil, bloodthirsty abomination that azeroth would have been much better off without.tl;dr: Garrosh's apple didn't fall far from Grom's tree.
12-30-2009 @ 10:17PM
"undead orc allied with the Burning Legion (Ner'Zhul)"Ner'zhul could hardly be called an ally of the Burning Legion, especially not by the time he became the Lich King. He wanted to take Arthas' body and form and army that would be able to bring the Legion down.Rise of the Horde also paints Ner'zhul in a rather compassionate light, practically making him an outright hero, despite his past actions which were orchestrated by Kil'jaeden the deceiver.
12-31-2009 @ 12:38AM
@DragonFireKai :The entire Frostwolf clan, roughly 80 orcs, never drank demon blood, and neither did any of the mag'har, including Garrosh. Garrosh was born before Kil'jaeden had even so much as looked at Draenor and was raised away from the corruption. Also, Grom, personally, didn't do anything to further the corruption of his race. In fact, he's pretty much the reason a group of orcs managed to stay outside of the internment camps, providing a learning ground for Thrall.
12-31-2009 @ 1:24AM
"Also, Grom, personally, didn't do anything to further the corruption of his race. "Was the very first to step up and drink demon blood. Then comes Warcraft 3."Mannoroth?""Sup Grom, I need you to drink this again.""I don't know.. last time you said that, it was a trick to make us settle a grudge for you since you were too lazy.""..... Well... this time it's not a trick?""Oh okay, hand it over then."
12-31-2009 @ 1:29AM
Which faction has sectioned off part of a major city in order to keep one specific race away from the rest of the city? Hint: It wasn't the Horde.I'm not certain about racism, but it's kind of a dick move. If I were the Dwarves, I'd consider switching to a team that doesn't force them to live in the skuzziest part of Stormwind.
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