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1-06-2010 @ 9:28AM
It seems like ALL of the "villains" in this game were once good souls, twisted and corrupted into becoming monsters.SargerasDeathwingArchimondeKil'JaedenNer'zhulGul'danArthas..Did I miss any?Oh.Illidan..
1-06-2010 @ 9:32AM
Azshara was blatantly evil from the start. Also the Old Gods.
1-06-2010 @ 9:43AM
Malygos and Medivh, unless you count him as evil from the day he was born thanks to a certain someone possessing his mom's womb.
1-06-2010 @ 9:50AM
How do you know Azshara was blatantly evil from the start? All the lore we hear of her starts with her at the height of her power doing evil things. I have yet to hear the story of her prior to that. For all we know she could have been a good little Elf who eventually let her station and power go to her head.
1-06-2010 @ 9:51AM
From Wowwikik: "Azshara began a descent into madness when she was corrupted by the Dark Titan Sargeras,"I agree that it's getting a bit cliché at this point. Perhaps that's an easy way for Blizzard to get us to somewhat care about the villains?
1-06-2010 @ 9:52AM
@ KnobAzshara wasn't evil from the start, she a was Queen of the Kaldorei who was corrupted by Sargeras. http://www.wowwiki.com/Queen_Azshara
1-06-2010 @ 10:01AM
Good people going crazy is Blizzard’s number one way of creating villains.
1-06-2010 @ 10:03AM
Azshara was a megalomaniac who saw herself as a goddess and everyone else as inferior. She always wanted her way and would do anything to get it. She would use her mastery of the arcane to seduce/hypnotize others so they could do what she wanted. She then agreed to let Xavius use the Highborne to use the Well of Eternity to its fullest potential so they could get more power. All this was before they were contacted by Sargeras through the Well.
1-06-2010 @ 10:06AM
Also, Malygos was never really evil, he was just tired of everyone abusing magic and therefore started the Nexus War.Evil? No, but definitely a Douchebag of the Day move.He just kind of needed to relax.
1-06-2010 @ 10:20AM
Illidan was never corrupted, he did horrible things in order to get glory. Illidan is one of my favorite WoW characters because he always believed he was doing good, even if his actions were totally off the hook.
1-06-2010 @ 10:30AM
I do agree in many ways, though I think that the very best villains are always corrupted good guys- even in most Christian religions, Satan is a fallen angel, once Lucifer, son of the morning, one of the greatest angels in heaven.Sargeras is essentially Blizzard's Satan.Satan didn't, however, have the excuse of seeing undeniable evil- vicious, greedy, conniving, selfish, arrogant, pain-loving Nathrezim and Old Gods as an excuse for "Going Mad,"- and I always think Blizzard means something different when their Lore-weavers say this in most contexts.That is to say, when Gul'dan gets so power-hungry that he trusts to anything at all for help at getting the power he desires (and it gets him killed), he has, in this respect, gone mad. What sane being would willingly accept the prices he paid, with little to no assurance of the object being paid for delivered? No sane being, that's who. Only a madman- twisted with visions of himself commanding forces beyond mortal ken- would do the things Gul'dan did. He had "Gone Mad"(tm) Blizzard style.I'd expand that by saying, those of you very familiar with LotR, Saruman also "[went] mad"(tm) believing what he saw in his Seeing-stone, doing what he did to try and topple Sauron and take his place.Malygos, on the other hand, didn't "[go] mad"(tm). He just went mad. Losing his best friend Neltharion, much of the Dragonflight he commanded, pining away for ages, and waking up from his misery-induced slumber to find his prime directive so universally reviled, he went mad, felt he knew just what needed to be done, and proceeded to attempt it. Malygos experienced psychosis in his way- that is, once again, he went mad, he did not "[go] mad"(tm) Blizzard style. We had to put him out of his (and our!) misery, in much the same way as one has to restrain a person in charge of nuclear missile who is experiencing hallucinations that [insert other country here] is currently launching nuclear missiles at his own country.Or so I see it. Could be wrong, but all I can do is call 'em like I see them, and hope for insight. :D
1-06-2010 @ 12:20PM
To me, that was one of the biggest mistakes about the Arthas novel. For one, I think everyone is sick of the Anakin Skywalker story. The whole kid Arthas-dad issues-horse issues-thing was pretty weak and cliche. Why couldn't he have just been a malevolent little prick that likes to torture animals, leer at women, and fantasize about various ways of killing people. I know it's the trend to try and explain why villains are the way they are, but some people are just bad. And sometimes those bad people get put in positions of power that allow them to hurt many times more people than they would have. To any one that might think this would make for a one dimensional character, I suggest they read "Zombie" by Joyce Carrol Oates.
1-07-2010 @ 3:35AM
@ Alanid: Word. Illidan is far, far more complex of a character that people who are only familiar with him from WoW give him credit for. Before the massive wallbanger of BC, Illidan regularly straddled the line between villain and anti-hero. He's a textbook example of the road to hell being paved with good intentions. Illidan -never- did anything with the intent to harm anyone, not even his so-called "betrayal" (regardless of which version you go by). The worst you could accuse him of was shortsightedness and selfish pride. Illidan's fatal flaw was that he was always done in by his own stubborn insistence that he could handle things better than everyone else. There was always a kind of nuance to his motivations though. Like when he consumed the Skull's power--yes, he wanted the power boost, but he really did want to cleanse Felwood. If it just so happened to benefit him in the process, why not? :P And, bless him, he really did want to stop Arthas--even if it was to save his own hide. He didn't even go to Outland to conquer it, he just wanted a place to hide out from KJ and the Sunshine Band.I hate to sound like a broken record but what became of him in WoW was just depressing. He basically turned into a Chaotic Evil comic book villain for the sake of needing a Big Bad for that xpac. "He went crazy" is the worst sort of copout for a writer, imo.
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