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1-06-2010 @ 9:28AM
"Thus, ironically, while the existence of the Horde caused the creation of the Alliance, it was an Alliance race that helped start the events that led to the creation of the Horde. Symmetry in origin."Except that they weren't an Alliance race at the time, had zero connection to the Alliance - and, since the orcs hadn't gone to Azeroth yet, the Alliance hadn't even been formed. So saying that it was an Alliance race that started the chain of events that led to the Horde's creation seems a little off.Unless I'm misreading something, which is entirely possible: I'm decaffeinated this morning. :)
1-06-2010 @ 9:55AM
It was the Eredar, not the Draenei that went into the universe corrupting and destroying. Same species, different affiliations and development. Too say that the Draenei were an alliance race before they even came to Azeroth is simply wrong. Night Elves and Blood Elves are essentially the same species separated by thousands of years and allegiances as well, but NEs are in the Alliance and BEs are in the Horde. However, to say that the original Kaldorie were apart of either though is just wrong....Really the Horde is just picking up the drecks. The Draenei are all the noble members of the Eredar that would not be fooled by the legion. The Blood Elfs are the remnants of the High Elves who originally sided with the mad queen Azashara. And now Goblins. Has anyone ever gotten a fair deal out of the Goblins? The Horde couldn't even pick the cool corrupt race. Even werewolves know better than to trust an Orc.
1-06-2010 @ 10:00AM
"A race that would one day join the Alliance sparked the events that led to the creation of the Horde, which in turn necessitated the creation of the Alliance."
1-06-2010 @ 10:23AM
@MattThat would be a much better way of putting it, although connecting the draenei to the Alliance at all when discussing events prior to their crash-landing on Azeroth still just makes me gnash my teeth. The Alliance wouldn't have formed without the Horde, that's true, but the old Horde formed under completely different circumstances that have no connection to the Alliance at all.
1-06-2010 @ 11:02AM
K first off, there is no "Horde" or "Alliance" yet. Just orcs and space goats. I think what the author is implying, is the actual JOINING of forces that became the Alliance wouldn't have happened if the orcs hadn't made the Horde and vice versa. Had the alliance not formed, the orcs would have killed the humans. Had the Horde not formed, we wouldn't be playing WoW but playing a version of the Sims, where every human has his own Orc slave. 2nd saying it was the Eradar, not the space goats, is not quite the same as the elves. The eredar are the race and Draenai are an off shoot. It would be more appropriate to compare them to orcs with the Draenai equivalent being the Mag'har orcs. So the Eradar encompassing the Draenai were spoken to and the Eradar who were not decieved CALLED THEMSELVES Draenai, meaning refuge. Just like not ALL the orcs were corrupted. ALSO the orcs would have never been corrupted if the stupid space goats would have fought on their OWN planet instead of running, leaving a path of destruction in their wake. Hmmm powerful entities that summon demons and hellfire. You think all the other planets the Draenai landed on, the Legion turned off the fire to conserve nature?? I doubt it.
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