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1-06-2010 @ 2:21PM
Blizzard had a great chance to make the orcs something new and fresh, something other than the greedy, wanton savages they've always been portrayed as in fantasy.In my opinion, they botched it. Hard.They turned the orcs into a race of hypocrites. They'll defend Alterac Valley as "sacred ancestral land" (which they've owned for thirty years) and then turn around and start clear-cutting night elf territory and beginning a campaign of outright genocide as they take all the land the quillboars have lived in for thousands of years. Seriously, when you drive an enemy to join the Scourge looking for a way out, you've done something seriously wrong.Even their vaunted honor system is a joke. There's an orc in Hammerfall, I forget his name, but he's the subject of a quest chain as you try to get him to stop crying over how "cowardly" it was for some human guy to stab Orgrim Doomhammer in the back. (Never mind the fact that Orgrim attacked the place at night in the middle of a storm.) Yet when we get up to Icecrown, Blackscar won't stop crowing about how AWESOME it was for the Horde to attack the Alliance from behind and hand a massive victory over to the Scourge, because that's SO MUCH better than letting the Alliance win a fight."THAT is what it means to be HORDE!" Apparently, what it means to be HORDE! is to be that high school jock that beats up nerds for good grades and breaks some other guy's leg on the football field to make sure his team wins a game. Anything in the name of victory.Even their line of succession is a joke: punch the Warchief hard enough and you get to be the new Warchief! Seriously? SERIOUSLY?! This has to be the only system of government even worse than a hereditary monarchy. Thrall's had, what, ten years to work with this rabble and this is the best he can come up with? Going back to some tribal rite his great-grandparents might have approved of?That's why my Horde toons are pretty much all tauren and forsaken. The tauren seem much more like genuine "noble savages" and the forsaken, if nothing else, are at least honest about their scumbaggery.
1-06-2010 @ 2:52PM
I couldn't agree more with anything you've said. Thank you! If only I could vote your comment up more than once. And as frustrating as all that is, it's even more frustrating that most players don't seem to notice or care.
1-06-2010 @ 4:03PM
"Even their line of succession is a joke: punch the Warchief hard enough and you get to be the new Warchief!"So we're ruled by forty random guys from Stormwind? That explains everything else you just said.LOK'TAR! :D
1-06-2010 @ 4:04PM
Sure, Blizzard *could* have portrayed Orcs as something other than how works of fantasy always portray Orcs, but why would Blizzard do that? Every fantasy has to have its "greedy, wanton savages." What Blizzard has done well in its lore is allow for, set a precedent for complexity among the stereotypes. Even among the "bad guys", there can arise a Thrall. Even among "savage" cultures, there are admirable aspirations or values which individuals can cultivate. Players (if they care about the RP) can portray their orcs any way they want, be it noble or otherwise.The converse is also true in Warcraft lore. That is, even among cultures so virtuous that the would sacrifice their own immortality to save the world, there can be found some very ugly biases and certainly some downright awful individuals. But Night Elves are still somewhat stereotyped high fantasy elves. Players (again, who care about such things) can play their elves as close to the stereotype or with whatever flaws they'd like.
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