Scattered Shots: It's all hunter loot in ICC, part 1

Okay, maybe it's not all hunter loot -- certainly there are some useless plate pieces and decorative maces in there -- but our ICC loot shopping list is delightful and vast, and even impacts the balance of hunter specs. This is the end game loot folks. The last major raid instance with the coolest and shiniest and bestest toys we're gonna get (and some bows).
In fact, there's just so darned much hunter loot delight that it won't all fit into one post! So join me after the cut as we start to plan our ICC loot lists with a look at our itemization, tier 10 armor, Emblem of Frost options, and craftable loot.
Itemization
When we talk about itemization, we're not just talking about having more of each stat, but also how our itemization budget is spent. ICC is the best itemized hunter look of any tier. This means that we're seeing more of the stats we like -- more red sockets, more crit, more armor penetration -- and less of the stats we don't like, such as blue sockets and haste.
The biggest impact we're going to see from this fantastic itemization is the greatly increased amount of ArP we'll be seeing on our gear. ArP is all over the place in ICC, in large amounts, and it's not something you're going to be able to avoid. MM gains far more benefit from ArP than SV, and the ease with which tons of ArP is now available will shift the balance of best dps spec strongly in the MM direction. MM will no longer have to give up nearly as much to pursue the badass ArP builds. In fact we're going to see a lot of MM hunters hardcapping their ArP, rather than pursuing a softcap with a trinket like Mjolnir Runestone or Needle-Encrusted Scorpion.
In the ICC endgame of best hunter dps benchmarks, I think we'll see the gap between SV and MM widen substantially.
A Note on "Best" Gear
I'm going to make an effort to identify some of the best and most desirable hunter loot in ICC. But we need to realize that what gear is the best depends not just on your spec, not just on your specific talents, but also on what other gear you have, and exactly how you play.
So rather than try to identify a Best in Slot, we're going to look at what gear is generally on the top of the lists.
Tier 10
ICC is also bringing us the unpleasantly named Ahn'kahar Blood Hunter set, complete with two set bonuses we actually like! The tier 10 set 2-piece bonus is absolutely the first thing you should be pursuing with your Emblems of Frost. Let's take a closer look at these bonuses:
2-piece bonus:
Your Auto Shots have a 5% chance to cause you and your pet to deal 15% additional damage for 10 sec.
This is a phenomenal set bonus that favors BM and MM. BM has a much faster rate of Auto Shot fire with Serpent's Swiftness and will get the proc more often. Sadly it's not enough to put BM up into the SV/MM raid dps range, but it's something. MM has a smaller advantage with the ability to maintain the 15% damage boost to their serpent stings indefinitely with the way Chimera Shot refreshes percentage damage boosts. But for all 3 specs this is a fantastic set bonus that scales beautifully with gear and buffs.
As a side note, you still don't want to stack haste to try to get this proc more often. The amount of useful stats you'd give up just aren't worth it. That said, if you aren't already using the Improved Aspect of the Hawk talent, this set bonus might just be enough to push you over the edge!
4-piece bonus:
When your Serpent Sting and Wyvern Sting abilities deal damage, you have a 5% chance to gain 20% attack power for 10 sec.
This set bonus isn't nearly as attractive; however, it's still a good set bonus. Using some paper napkin math, this bonus looks worse than the tier 9 2-piece bonus (Serpent Sting crits!), though certainly with much better stats on the items. Proccing off of your sting damage means that on single-target fights, this ability will be proccing very seldom. The proc gets much stronger in fights where you have multiple targets up for a sustained amount of time, and you can keep your Serpent Sting on two targets at once (which you're doing anyway when you have the chance, right?).
Overall it's generally a good move for hunters of all specs to pursue the 4-piece set bonus. I suspect we'll see most hunters getting the head, shoulders, chest, and hands for their set, and leaving the legs out of the set. The Ahn'kahar Blood Hunter legs and hands have no ArP, and there's some hefty ArP legs available elsewhere that is likely to make it the logical non-set piece.
Emblem of Frost Gear
We have some fantastic gear options purchasable with our Emblems of Frost. There's a generic Emblem of Frost vendor in Dalaran, but the set vendor is located just inside the entrance to the ICC raid instance, as well as one in the Dalaran Leather & Links shop near the south bank.
- Ahn'Kahar Blood Hunter set
- Spaulders, Handguards-- 60 emblems
- Headpiece, Tunic, Legguards-- 95 emblems
- Back: Recovered Scarlet Onslaught Cape -- 50 emblems
- Chest: Longstrider's Vest -- 95 emblems
- Hands: Logsplitters -- 60 emblems
- Waist: Band of the Night Raven -- 60 emblems
- Trinket: Herkuml War Token -- 60 emblems
Once you have your 2-piece Ahn'kahar Blood Hunter bonus, you probably want to get the Recovered Scarlet Onslaught Cape next. There's not a lot of options for the back slot from ICC drops (and none in 10-man from any loot list I've seen). Maybe the Lich King is hoarding our cloaks (and our guns!). However this emblem cloak is currently the best back slot item available to us, and we can just buy it whenever we want!
The chest and hand pieces are probably going to be used for your set, so these aren't terribly attractive (unless you really want the ArP on the Logsplitters). The trinket is filled with Haste, which makes it far less desirable for hunters as opposed to other physical dps classes. You can get a better waist via drops (in 25 man anyway) but if you still haven't gotten a better waist by the time you've collected your entire tier 10 set and back, this could be a nice little upgrade to hang onto until something better comes around.
Crafted Gear
ICC also brings us new crafted gear pieces that can be made with Primodial Saronite, the extremely costly by-product of the god of death. These include:
- Shatter Rounds
- Iceblade Arrows
- Legs: Draconic Bonesplinter Legguards -- 8 Primordial Saronite
- Feet: Rock-Steady Treads -- 5 Primordial Saronite
The Rock-Steady Treads are competitive for the best mail feet out there. You can get a bit more ArP from drops if that's what your after, and if you need hit rating you may prefer something else; however, in general you'll probably be content keeping these puppies throughout ICC. This is on my wish list as the Primordial Saronite prices continue to drop.
The Draconic Bonesplinter Legguards are also very good, though there is equivalent or better available through drops in early 25-man ICC as well as options with hit rating. In general if you are raiding 25-man ICC I think these are worth skipping; however, if you have deep pockets or only raid 10-man (or not at all) these are an excellent purchase.
Next Week
That pretty much covers the ICC hunter loot that we have space for today. The best thing about all of this epic joy we just talked about is that we don't have to rely on random drops for any of it. But, there is a lot more loot left to cover!
Next week we'll take a look at Quel'delar, the Ashen Verdict faction rings, and all the joyous purples that drop from the ICC raid bosses.
*Added a reference to the hunter tier 10 vendor in Dalaran. Thanks commenters!
You want to be a Hunter, eh? Well then you came to the right place. You start with science, then you add some Dwarven Stout, and round it off some elf bashing. The end result is massive dps. Scattered Shots is the WoW.com column dedicated to helping you learn everything it takes to be a Hunter. Each week Scattered Shots will cover topics to help you Fix Your DPS, Choosing the Right Spec, Gear Selection, Macros and Pet Selection, Pet Specs and Management.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Suppressor Jan 7th 2010 9:14AM
So glad to finally have a hunter columnist who does their research. Welcome aboard, Frostheim.
Dharmabhum Jan 7th 2010 10:09AM
Indeed, welcome! I just may start reading this again!
Fudomyo Jan 7th 2010 11:55AM
Boy, am I glad to be able to read this column without cursing again. This is the sort of 'loot drop' post that actually is worth reading, instead of the usual 'boss X drops Y' shit.
Only bad thing is that it makes me think of changing to MM from surv...
Thank you, Frostheim.
Bubsa Jan 7th 2010 11:09AM
Agreed. This column is already infinetly better then anything Carrington wrote.
Dhryke Jan 7th 2010 12:35PM
Am I blanking on something or.....
" The proc gets much stronger in fights where you have multiple targets up for a sustained amount of time, and you can keep your Serpent Sting on two targets at once (which you're doing anyway when you have the chance, right?)."
.... does this seem wrong to anyone else?
You can only have one sting active at a time. You cannot serpent sting two targets at once and get more procs.
Side note: I do enjoy reading Frosts work.
Dhryke Jan 7th 2010 12:40PM
There is also a Tier 10 vendor in the mail armor shop, by south bank. Small dwarf hiding behind the counter in the back corner of the shop.
Salty Jan 7th 2010 12:42PM
You can certainly sting multiple targets. Also, the amount of damage SrS does over its full duration beats anything but Explosive Shot and Kill Shot or Volley on AoE packs. So whenever you can cast it to its full effect, it is a damage gain.
ResumeMan Jan 7th 2010 12:46PM
"You can only have one sting active at a time. You cannot serpent sting two targets at once and get more procs."
From the tooltip: "Only one Sting per Hunter can be active on any one target"
So you can have SS on two individual targets, you just can't have say SS and, say, Scorpid Sting on one target.
That said, I pretty much never put stings on 2 targets...Guess I'm a bad hunter :-P
Dhryke Jan 7th 2010 12:50PM
"Only one Sting per Hunter can be active on any one target"
One sting per hunter.
any ONE target.
Not
Only one sting per hunter can be active on the target.
any ONE target.
outdps Jan 7th 2010 1:09PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say something I rarely say (especially to a troll): learn to play, Dhryke. Stinging multiple targets has been a MM hunter's bread butter for a long time.
Dhryke Jan 7th 2010 3:25PM
Troll? I'm not a troll, I'm an orc. As far as "trolling" goes, I wasn't. Simply read the tooltip wrong. Went and tested, and I am wrong. Easy as that.
Lines like: L2Play are not informative nor do they help anyone else reading this article.
Frostheim Jan 7th 2010 3:29PM
Dhryke is absolutely right. We're all here to learn after all (and possibly be entertained), and I'm a big fan of asking questions. Far better than to risk looking foolish than to risk not learning how to be a better hunter! And of course the questions could also end in revealing me to be foolish :)
So props to Dhryke!
QQinsider Jan 13th 2010 1:59PM
Props would have been due if he'd gone out and tested after the replies to his first comment, instead of making himself look like an idiot by posting again without doing that.
Anyways, nice to see a good hunter column, keep it up!
morkuma Jan 7th 2010 9:28AM
first sentence and i already knew it was frost. i read whu too much. great post though, shame the hunter is almost shelved at this point.
Dboy Jan 7th 2010 9:32AM
I wish there was something like this post for priests...
Arbolamante Jan 7th 2010 9:31AM
Lol - yeah, it did almost seem like all hunter loot last night. And we only had one hunter in our group - lucky for him.
Morynne Jan 7th 2010 9:37AM
Fantastic Frostheim. Congratulations again!
I agree entirely so far with what you've got, I did a write up on my own basically saying the same things :)
Sword Jan 7th 2010 9:37AM
Yeah its good to see your first collumn is a good, informative one!
Jarviswabi Jan 7th 2010 9:37AM
You're speaking my language (ArP good). I almost gave up on my MM ArP build a few months ago when I read that it was going away in Cataclysm (sort of like someone continuing to speak Esperanto, what's the point). But I decided to be stubborn and now it's paying off, at least for a few more months. I spent my first 60 Frosties on the Logsplitters, since I was still rocking 219 gloves from Ulduar (lots of ArP). Next up has got to be the shoulders, since the T9 shoulder design is among the lamest ever. If I have to look at myself wearing those stupid things for much longer I might cry.
outdps Jan 7th 2010 10:27AM
While ArP might not be a focus in Cataclysm, we have a good long time to fight the lich king in the meanwhile. Also, when they do release it, I suspect they'll be redoing all this awesome raid level ArP gear we have with something equally good in the cataclysm paradigm.