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1-07-2010 @ 2:22PM
Good post Frost.And as much as it chaffs my dwarven hide, you're right that even with the changes BM doesn't catch MM/SV in DPS or Damage on paper. But then in the real world and depending on raid composition and skill anything is possible. A solid BM Hunter could out DPS a not so great MM/SV hunter.Thanks for the details on Serpent Sting. I have to admit it took me a moment to see where that was leading. Again, solid post!
1-07-2010 @ 2:37PM
Personally, I end up hitting about 75% of my spreadsheet DPS, regardless of whether I'm MM or BM. Yes, a skilled BM hunter can out-dps a MM hunter with the same gear -- something that shouldn't happen on paper, and in fact, for a long time, I out-DPSed myself as BM rather than MM, because I was just bad at it. But if you assume you have equal skill at both, you're going to see more benefit from Survival/MM build than you are from BM.That doesn't mean that you should always play it, though. BM is more awesome. :)
1-07-2010 @ 3:02PM
@crschmidtI see your point. And don't disagree that when you just talk about the math MM/SV > BM.But as you even expressed you don't hit 100% of your numbers. And also you said you at one time you had BM > MM because you were just "Bad" at BM. This is what people tend to forget when playing this game. It's more than being the "Top" spec or getting the "best gear." It's also about developing the skills to down bosses. That being said, when I Raid or even PUG I'd rather have the player that enjoys their class/spec combination over the player that blindly follows spreadsheets or Top DPS Guides.But this is a discussion for another time. Besides, I'm just the guy that never did his research. ;)Again, great post Frost! I can't wait to see where you go after the dungeon guides. ;) And don't forget. Ignore us trolls. :P lol
1-07-2010 @ 3:38PM
I'm glad you're both saying it. I personally love BM. I've stuck with it even though I half-heartedly gave both MM and SV a shot. I don't enjoy them so I'm not good at them. It's a nightmare in pugs though when I have to explain EVERY TIME that I KNOW I won't be doing the best DPS with Skoll as my pet of choice. ;) I’m not ignorant - just stubborn. :) The guild is fine with it but this is a main reason I’ve not even used the new dungeon finder once. I’m sick of the grief in pugs. It’s not worth it. I’ve got other stuff I can do. Is anyone doing any theory crafting for BM specs anymore? I check all the site and most of them like beimba are saying, IN DEVELOPMENT for my spec of choice. We’ve had some changes but no one is doing best-builds for BMs that I can see anyway. If you guys have any tips I’d be grateful. ;)I`ve looked up the build that the Aspect of the Hare writer is using but it’s the one he’s/she’s just comfortable with, not nec the build that brings the best DPS to the spec.
1-07-2010 @ 3:56PM
@DreyjaEJ's is still supporting the Raiding as BM tool. And I've been toying with the idea. Only problem is I'm spec agnostic. I just tend to pull for the underdog. In Original it was BM and SV, BC MM and now BM.Because of machine reasons I tend to run BM (Lag and lack of add-ons can impact MM and SV performance too much). So check out EJ's and if you got any ideas let me know. And I'm sure Frost can't resist a scientific analysis of how to achieve the best possible DPS as BM. Come on Frost, you know you want to. ;)
1-07-2010 @ 4:06PM
I was afraid that you would say EJ... Elitists give me hives. ;-p I have trouble wading through the pages of ... angry to get the information I want.That being said, I have not checked in there lately so I guess I will have to swallow my pride and just do it. :)Thanks Brig.
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