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1-11-2010 @ 7:27PM
Can't disagree more with the suggestion to decrease Prot sustained DPS. Protection Warriors are already the lowest DPS tanking class. And I'm sure I haven't seen a whole lot of calls to nerf Protection Paladin or Bear Druid DPS.There's no need to further lower Prot Warrior's already weak PVE DPS for the sake of arenas.
1-11-2010 @ 7:30PM
This is a PvP article. Prot Warriors do far more damage in PvP than bears. There are many aspects to Prot PvP DPS which you might not be taking into consideration.Unless you missed the second half of my suggestion, I wrote:"...up their threat modifiers to make up for it."
1-11-2010 @ 7:38PM
As GC et al have repeated said they don't want to break PVE for the sake of PVP, I'd say it's a fair point to make regardless. You've thrown out a bunch of suggestions, most of which have a negative effect on PVE tanking for Prot Warriors. You don't think there are going to be comments to that effect?
1-11-2010 @ 7:40PM
This is a PvP article. Prot Warriors do far more damage in PvP than bears. There are many aspects to Prot PvP DPS which you might not be taking into consideration.Unless you missed the second half of my suggestion, I wrote:"...up their threat modifiers to make up for it."Then can the mobs tank fight have less hp then? Maybe a special talent in boss fights to make their hp lower?Last time I checked dps race bosses still require dps. Threat does not hurt them that much. Why take a prot warrior tank if the others will help out the dps more?
1-11-2010 @ 7:56PM
Rossi already mentioned that Prot Warrior damage is very high in PvP comparatively.In PvE, prot warriors are still doing a good bit less than everyone else. A round the board (or flat percentage) nerf in damage and increase in threat will affect PvP prot the greatest while affecting PvE prot the least.I'm sure there are times when your group would have wiped had it not been for those few extra points of damage your protection warrior squeezed off.There are far more (and I mean farrrrrrrrrr more) times where protection warriors have doubled or tripled damage from an opposing class they were locking down in 3v3.
1-12-2010 @ 12:48AM
"There are far more (and I mean farrrrrrrrrr more) times where protection warriors have doubled or tripled damage from an opposing class they were locking down in 3v3."You know, considering the percentage of WoW's population playing arenas relative to the percentage doing PVE content, I think that this comment is seriously debatable at best, but is probably just outright wrong.
1-12-2010 @ 1:25AM
Christian, you don't get it- having insane things going on in pvp doesn't matter when such a small percentage of the population plays pvp. No One Cares about pvp. Everyone Cares about PvE. I heal high end instances, and healing warrior tanks far frustrating more then any other type, especially since Dk tanks are far more experienced then they used to be. They have far more trouble with grabbing ranged mobs, and the incidence of me dieing is far more likely then it is with any other class in my experience.GC's "bring the player, not the class" doctrine isn't working for both PVE and PVP, but when the two are in conflict like they are now, unfortunately for pvp, pve wins.
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