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1-13-2010 @ 8:09AM
best way to deal with this is first ask to make sure they aren't just in their off spec gear, if it looks like they can't tank then just leave, no reason they should benefit from other peoples ability to pick up the slack.
1-13-2010 @ 8:28AM
What actually happens IF you leave, is that they can return to the top of the qeue as a DPS'er and find someone to tank for them. You actually do them a favor by leaving I think :)Didn't run into this yet, but then again... my main is a tank and my wife plays a healer.... Didn't see it on my alts either tho
1-13-2010 @ 9:01AM
I haven't had this happen yet either. I usually queue as leader and if it did happen in a group I was leading I would not put us back into the queue until that inconsiderate primate left the group.
1-13-2010 @ 9:20AM
kv83 - I had no idea about this. Thanks. That really should've been mentioned in the article, or _an_ article imo.I just run FoS + 1 random per day with guildies mostly, so I guess I'm still kinda new to this LFD thing - never really liked running with random people off the battlegroup.
1-13-2010 @ 11:17AM
One of the reasons Occulus queues so much is because the first party disbands, one or two people stick around and the group keeps autofilling until people stop leaving. I was laughing my arse off because this happened 4x (4 groups formed and fell apart) while me and my friend kept re-queuing Occulous - we had nothing better to do because we had the debuff.In that respect its like a vortex - dragging in unsuspecting healers/tanks. Likewise you do these guys a favor by dropping - its what they wanted you to do.I suspect when people pick tank/healer they are in reality waiting for people to drop so they can re-queue at the top as dps.Other things I've seen that game the system - not rolling on loot at the end so people will drop and you get all the goods by default.In the end it does re-enforce my belief that people in general in this game suck.
1-13-2010 @ 11:24AM
If I am understanding right you are asking what happens if you leave a group you have just queued with if the tank is not a tank. Well unfortunately I have seen similar situations (usually more along the lines of having a tank use his same rotations he uses for DPS but whatever 'defensive' mode their class offers). Unfortunately if you 'abandon' a group, even if you are not the problem and it would have involved lots of wasted time and repair bills you get dinged with a 15 minute debuff for being a 'deserter' and can't re-queue
1-13-2010 @ 2:32PM
Don't forget you should be able to votekick them.I don't think that if you do that they go back to the top.
1-13-2010 @ 2:35PM
This is a frustrating situation. When you sign up as tank, it should check to make sure you have a minimum defense, and a proper spec. (Prot, Feral, or any of 3 DK's). Those two things being verified would help. If you dont meet those requirements, then not be allowed to queue as tank.IF IT HAPPENS TO:1) If someone else can do the job they should switch and do the job and then boot the idiot that joined as "tank" just before last boss so he has to miss out on extra badges but had to invest his time.2)If no one can do it, wait it out ... until he leaves. Yes this costs your time but if they never get to run the dungeon .. they will eventually stop doing this.
1-13-2010 @ 8:14PM
@Verit:"Other things I've seen that game the system - not rolling on loot at the end so people will drop and you get all the goods by default."I'm not absolutely sure, but I think I have already seen messages giving loot to someone who left a minute ago (some people leave group less than 5s after receiving their frost emblems), so I don't think this type of exploit is possible. Whoever is standing on their rolls is just wasting time.
1-13-2010 @ 5:40PM
@sungod15 minute debuff is bttr than random that takes 30 minutes take an hour and losing alot of gold from repairs. unless ur dps and then its just a longer queue
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