Scattered Shots: It's all hunter loot in ICC, part 2

Last week we took a look at all the ICC hunter loot that could be purchased or crafted, as well as a bit of discussion about how the ICC itemization impacts hunters and the hunter specs.
This week we're going to dive in headfirst and dig through the piles of boss loot and see what gear comes out on top. I should note right off the bat that we have no idea at all what kind of loot the Lich King himself is hoarding. I wouldn't be surprised to find his loot is a higher iLevel than the rest of ICC, and likely what he has to offer will stomp the equivalent slot gear into a gooey gnome puddle. And no, he will not be dropping Frostmourne, though if he did I think we can all agree that a soul-devouring blade that corrupts and controls you is clearly a hunter weapon.
So join me after the cut as we take a look at Quel'delar, the Ashen Verdict rings, and everything else that drops in ICC worth looking at!
Quel'delar
We dwarves had a saying back in Khaz Modan, "You can batter your beer, but never your pet, and if you batter your hilt you'll have no regrets."
Quel'delar is the product of a quest chain starting with the hard to find Battered Hilt drop. The Battered Hilt can drop from any of the elite mobs in the ICC 5-man heroics. There are several versions of Quel'delar, but what we hunters care about is the 2-handed sword, and it is a lovely bit of craftsmanship for a lowly ilvl 251 item. She's itemized perfectly for hunters: agility, crit, armor penetration, and attack power. The ArP in particular will make this weapon appealing for MM hunters even above many ilvl 264 items.
There are certainly 25-man weapons that stat out equivalent or better than Quel'delar, but I suspect that many hunters will be happy to carry this beauty all the way to the Lich King.
Ashen Band of Vengeance
The Ashen Verdict is the new reputation you can collect in ICC, and they're not just going to send us to assault the stronghold of the Lich King without assistance. Oh no, they're gonna give us a ring to help! Well, at least they will if they like us enough.
You get the Ashen Verdict ring for free once you hit friendly with the Ashen Verdict. You then get a free upgrade with every new reputation level. Here are the different Ashen Verdict rings:
- Friendly: Ashen Band of Vengeance
- Honored: Ashen Band of Greater Vengeance
- Revered: Ashen Band of Unmatched Vengeance
- Exalted: Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance
Ranged Weapons
- Njordnar Bone Bow -- Lady Deathwhisper 10-man
- Zod's Repeating Longbow -- Lady Deathwhisper 25-man
- Stakethrower -- Queen Lanathel 10-man
Alas for those that understand and appreciate finely crafted weapons of death, the Stakethrower is currently the only hunter gun in ICC, and in terms of numbers it's substantially below Zod's. However I think we can all agree that the sound of gunfire and clouds of smoke grant a benefit beyond the mere numbers on the weapon. As we also say back in Khaz Modan, "Frostheim will never kneel before Zod!"
Melee Weapons
It looks as though the best melee weapons in ICC are again gonna be the 2-handers. The 1-handers can come close, but in general they seem to be statted more for the melee classes, with excessive amounts of haste. While haste certainly helps us, it doesn't boost our DPS as much as our other stats.
We have several very attractive 2-handers available to us depending on whether you're looking for hit, or ArP, or both.
- Hersir's Greatspear-- Blood Princes 10-man
- Shaft of Glacial Ice -- Rotface 10-man
- Distant Land -- Festergut 25-man
- Bloodfall -- Queen Lanathel 25-man
A final word on our melee options: if an actual melee class needs one of these, they should get priority over us. Yes, I know the weapons are great, but for us it's just a stat stick; the melee folks will actually use the stats and the DPS. That said if you're willing to let the melee have Zod's Repeating Longbow before you, then I guess you can try to grab your melee weapon before them.
Head
I suspect most hunters will choose to go with the Ahn'kahar Blood Hunter's Headpiece, but the 10 and 25 man raids each have an alternative.
- Taldron's Short-Sighted Helm -- Rotface 10-man
- Snowserpent Mail Helm -- Marrowgar 25-man
Neck
- Rimetooth Pendant -- Sindragosa 10-man
- Sindragosa's Collar -- Sindragosa 25-man
Shoulders
Honestly, just ignore the drops and buy your Ahn'kahar Blood Hunter's Spaulders.
Back
You want the Recovered Scarlet Onslaught Cape purchasable with Emblems of Frost.
Chest
If you aren't going for the Ahn'kahar Blood Hunter's Tunic (which you probably are) we have some alternative options:
- Hauberk of a Thousand Cuts -- Saurfang 10-man
- Carapace of Forgotten Kings -- Festergut 25-man
Wrists
- Icecrown Rampart Bracers -- Gunship 10-man
- Scourge Hunter's Vambraces -- Gunship 25-man
Hands
Again, your Ahn'kahar Blood Hunter's Handguards are your likely choice if you're pursuing the 4-piece set bonus. But the tier 10 gloves don't have any ArP. If you prefer to stack ArP in this slot, you're best off with the Logsplitters purchasable with Emblems of Frost.
Waist
- Linked Scourge Vertebrae -- Marrowgar 10-man
- Nerub'ar Stalker's Cord -- Festergut 25-man
Legs
This is the tier 10 set slot that we're most likely to use something other than our tier 10 set pieces, due to the lack of any ArP on our set legs.
- Legguards of the Twisted Dream -- Valithria 10-man
- Leggings of the Northern Lights -- Lady Deathwhisper 25-man
Also, hunters hanging on to their tier 9 set for the superior 2-piece set bonus will probably want to keep their tier 9.5 legs for this slot, since the Windrunner Legguards of Triumph have ArP.
Feet
- Taldron's Long Neglected Boots -- Festergut 10-man
- Treads of the Wasteland -- Blood Princes 25-man
Finger
We already know we're using our Ashen Verdict ring for one of our finger slots. Here's what we're looking at for the other one.
- Saurfang's Cold-Forged Band -- Saurfang 10-man
- Seal of the Twilight Queen -- Queen Lanathel 10-man
- Frostbrood Sapphire Ring -- Valithria 25-man
Trinket
- Whispering Fanged Skull -- Lady Deathwhisper 10-man
- Deathbringer's Will -- Saurfang 25-man
For Deathbringer's Will, it is certainly worth taking a moment to look at how it works.
From testing done by people with the trinket, it seems to have a 105 second internal cooldown, with a 30% proc chance. Possibly the cooldown is shorter (90 seconds seems like a more logical one) and the proc chance is lower. However we do know that the uptime on the trinket is close to 30%.
Each time it procs you will transform into one of three races: Vyrkul, Taunka, or Iron Dwarf. The transformation will last for 30 seconds and during that time you'll get a buff specific to each race. The possible buffs for hunters are:
- 600 agility
- 600 crit rating
- 1,200 attack power
But yes, this is absolutely hunter loot and you want it so bad you'd even be willing to spare a gnome's life if that's what it took.
[Fixed Rock-Steady Treads reference -- whoops! Thanks commentors!]
You want to be a Hunter, eh? Well you start with science, then you add some Dwarven Stout, and round it off some elf bashing. The end result is massive DPS. Scattered Shots is the WoW.com column dedicated to helping you learn everything it takes to be a Hunter. Each week Scattered Shots will cover topics to help you Fix Your DPS, Choosing the Right Spec, Gear Selection, Macros and Pet Selection, Pet Specs and Management.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
morkuma Jan 14th 2010 9:10AM
LOL@who cares it's a useless bow.
i bet. with the power of @morkuma and @outdps and the whole twitter community, that you will AND I MEAN WILL, use a bow.
you lose? twitter it is.
that is all.
brian Jan 14th 2010 9:29AM
You might find that people give your thoughts and ideas more consideration if they are presented in a manner which is easily understood.
Gnosh Jan 14th 2010 9:45AM
I'm reading this for the fourth time now, and I'm STILL not sure what you mean.
I'm down to "Twitter it is". What do you mean here? Care to explain?
Anyway, excellent post. The topic picture is f@*#$ing great.
morkuma Jan 14th 2010 9:58AM
frostheim knows what i am talking about. there is an ongoing joke that the twitter crew will get frost to lose a bet and join us on twitter. i figure the numbers will finally get to him and he will use a bow. if he agrees to the bet, and i ever see a bow on him, he would have to join us on twiitter.
Mordockk Jan 14th 2010 11:23AM
text frostheim then. or is wow.com's forums your only way to communicate with him?
:P
danglewood Jan 14th 2010 9:38AM
You didn't mention it last week, and I'm surprised you didn't mention it this week. Shawl of Nerubian Silk (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50764) is a pretty nice cloak that drops from Lord Marrowgar 10 man. Definitely something hunters want to pick up while they're saving frost emblems for their t10. Unfortunately, I lost this to a DK last week. He ended up giving it to our tanking druid, and then the STR/STA cloak dropped on the boat fight.
Loz T Jan 14th 2010 9:43AM
It's not mentioned because it has Expertise on, something you definately don't want as a Hunter.
Loz T Jan 14th 2010 9:45AM
To elaborate. Expertise reduces the chance the enemy will dodge/parry your attacks. Since ranged attacks can't be dodged/parried, it's uselss for us.
danglewood Jan 14th 2010 9:46AM
Good point. But it's still an upgrade for me, lol.
danglewood Jan 14th 2010 9:48AM
Expertise is useless, but not the cloak. But I could definitely see why some people would pass on it.
outdps Jan 14th 2010 10:13AM
Taking an expertise cloak from a melee class is worse than a tank rolling on a hunter weapon because it's more threat. At least the tank has the ability to use the threat from a hunter weapon, whereas we have absolutely no use whatsoever for expertise, regardless of what blues we're wearing in that slot now.
Mordockk Jan 14th 2010 10:54AM
Danglewood brings up a heated debate however on whether or not people can roll on gear if its a flat out upgrade even if its better for a diff class.
however, you do NOT use expertise and therefore should, in your might mind(and I kno that's hard for some people), pass that up to a melee DPS class. It's just BAD for you to be using. It's almost like using a PVP cloak for PVE because resilience is a useless stat for DPS as expertise is useless for a hunter.
but it just bugs me how sometimes people can't just look beyond their own character's gear choices and see "ilvl 251", omgz its an upgrade. if you have an ilvl 200 cloak, then maybe it is.....but what are you doing with that cloak in 10ICC?
and i failed to mention you lost a roll to a DK....when in my eyes, you both shouldn't have been rolling on that particular cloak because it has agility....
but when its a pug run i guess you just have to roll with what people consider to be upgrades or not...
HSmith Jan 14th 2010 11:16AM
Unless you have the toc25 man cloak that drops off beast this cloak is an upgrade for any hunter... that being said you should only roll on it if there is no melee dps that wants it.
clundgren Jan 14th 2010 2:28PM
I find it ironic that the DK, who definitely could use the cloak more than you, still did the right thing and passed it to the feral druid, while you are complaining about losing the cloak.
It's just karma that the str/stam cloak then dropped for the DK. He deserved it.
danglewood Jan 14th 2010 9:44AM
Good point. But it's still an upgrade for me, lol.
Boz Jan 14th 2010 9:44AM
For those of you that might have missed it, Frostheim has a very slight, mild aversion to any ranged weapon that is not a gun (as any proper dwarf should).
Also, two Scourgeborne Waraxe's (ICC25) are a possible alternative to Hersir's Greatspear for hit-capped Hunter's seeking Armor Penetration. The axe drops off the Gunship event and, while not itemized as well as a two-hander, may offer some Hunter a fair compromise.
morkuma Jan 14th 2010 10:15AM
slight? lol. he wouldn't use a bow if it was double the damage of the current gun he was using, going against everything he believes in. he will still manage to top charts though. i do not think he is actually human. i think he is a programmed killing machine with an error on the 'use the best possible ranged wep' line of code.
Elleyna Jan 14th 2010 9:51AM
You left out Wodin's Lucky Necklace (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50452). While not a boss drop, we've seen a bajillion of these things and I had no problem getting one. While it has +hit instead of +ArP, it's still an upgrade to the 25m Onyxia neckpiece.
Elleyna Jan 14th 2010 9:52AM
Sorry, forgot to say that other than what I had just said, very nice article. I'm really liking your stuff. Active and intelligent hunter columnists are always welcome in my book.
threesixteen Jan 14th 2010 10:14AM
anyone else notice there seems to be an overabundance of hit rating being itemized on gear lately?
and i'd like to point out as well that with a decent attack speed (ie: haste) and the ArPen itemization i'm seeing, survival hunters really do benefit not just MM.
there's a lot of dogma lately about hunter builds and gear itemization... i think when you look at the 'whole' of your gear you'll see it's pretty much evenly spread (with the exception as i mentioned of too much hit) so that any build is viable.
thoughts?