Pimp My Profile: Shippleton, beast mastery hunter

Hi, I'm 80 and I've been so for weeks. I've been running random heroics for gear and I followed your guides for my pet specs (though I think I messed up on my Tenacity). My DPS barely cracks 1000. As far as I know, as a hunter, there is almost no excuse for this. Please help me.Thanks for writing in, Shippleton. You are wise enough to understand that your DPS is lower than it should be and intelligent enough to ask questions. It seems likely that you are also uncommonly good-looking, a trait shared by most hunters. You are to be applauded for taking the first step down the road to becoming a death dealer, which is the right of every hunter!
-Shippleton
Right off the bat 1k DPS seems sufficiently low that I suspect we should be taking a look at your shot rotation as well as your talents and gear. In the interest of science I went ahead and ran Utgarde Pinnacle heroic with some extremely understanding friends while I was completely naked except for my gun, shirt, and tabard. My lack of mana kept me in viper for about 50% of the fights, and I ended up at about 1,100 DPS for the run. So that gives us an absolute bottom DPS benchmark.
We're going to analyze your spec under a few assumptions here: we're assuming that your interest is to perform well in heroics, since that's what you're running, as opposed to raids. Further we'll assume that you prefer to run in Beast Mastery spec, since that's what you have right now. When it comes to heroics, any of the three specs are just fine and more than capable of pulling their weight, though at your low gear level you may find that you do the most damage in a Survival spec.
Now let's take a look at your profile and get pimpin'!
Talents
Your build is currently better suited to soloing than running instances. Talents like Endurance Training and Thick Hide are great when your pet is tanking mobs for you, but in an instance you have a tank whose job it is to get repeatedly smashed in the face so your pet doesn't have to. You and your pet should be taking very little damage in the course of normal instance runs. Your job is to do damage, so you want to focus on talents that increase the damage of you and your pet. There are certainly situations in which you and your pet will take damage, but that's what you have a healer for: to heal your pet.
For BM you want to focus on a talent build that looks more like this: BM Low Gear Heroic Build
This talent build looks to maximize the damage done by you and your pet and should ensure that your pet has plenty of focus. As your gear improves, you'll be able to make some adjustments, such as removing a point of Frenzy and Bestial Discipline, and phasing out the points in Focused Aim as your hit rating improves.
Pet
While a tenacity pet is often the pet of choice for soloing, particularly against multiple mobs, they just can't put out the same kind of damage that a ferocity pet can. Currently the best DPS pet is the wolf, particularly prized for it's Furious Howl ability to actually increase your DPS as well! However you'll do just fine with a devilsaur, raptor, cat, or even your core hound Jabberwock. If you do decide to get a new ferocity pet, it's generally considered polite to level it up to 80 before you bring it into heroics with you.
Jabberwock comes pretty close to a solid ferocity pet talent build -- your instincts are good here. However once again we want to ignore defensive talents and focus on pet talents that will boost your pet's damage. Here's a good pet build to try: BM Ferocity Pet Talent Build
Gear
It's a bit hard to tell how much of your gear was a deliberate choice and what gear was just the best option you had at the time. While leveling it's certainly possible to end up with some odd gear with stats we don't generally need. Just in case, here are a few quick and dirty tips on making gear choices:
- We don't care about strength. At all.
- We don't care about expertise. At all.
- Attack power, agility, hit rating, intellect, and critical strike rating are all great stats.
- Haste and armor penetration rating are also useful stats, but not as good.
- Hit is the most important stat until you reach the hit cap (more on that below).
- It's okay to take leather if it has better stats; however, it's polite not to take it if there's a rogue or feral druid who can use it.
Hit is the stat that will increase your DPS more than any other. Note however that once you reach that hit cap, you will never miss. Any hit beyond that is going to be useless to you.
Gems & Enchants
You must gem and enchant your gear. Nothing will raise more red flags in a group than seeing someone without gems or enchants. It screams "noob!" at them.
Now, you don't need to put the super expensive epic gems in gear that you're hoping to upgrade soon -- certainly not in anything that isn't of epic quality anyway. For that gear you can feel free to use the rare (blue quality) gems. But as you build up to a good set of gear you'll want to use epic quality gems. Here's a quick & dirty gem guide for you. These suggestions all use the epic gem, but you can just look for the rare gem equivalent -- it'll have the same stat, just slightly lower numbers.
- Meta Slot: Relentless Earthsiege Diamond
- Red Slot: Bright Cardinal Ruby
- Yellow Slot: Wicked Ametrine or you can use Rigid King's Amber if you still need more hit rating
- Blue Slot: Nightmare Tear for the first blue slot (you can only have one Nightmare Tear) and then use Bright Cardinal Ruby in any other blue slots and ignore the socket bonus.
How to Shoot
Finally, quick and dirty bit of advice on shot priority. Be sure your pet is attacking your target -- send him in first! Use Multi-Shot when it's available, then Arcane Shot, then Steady Shot. If the targets are staying alive more than a handful of seconds you should lead off with Serpent Sting. If there are 3 or more mobs, go ahead and just use Volley on them. Hunter's Mark should always be put up first for bosses, but for mobs that die really fast, don't bother.
Remember that you can use Viper Sting on most mobs with a mana bar to recover some of your mana without going into Aspect of the Viper. This is very useful since the pace of most PUGs in heroics these days doesn't leave you with time to drink between pulls.
Now You're Pimpin'
With these changes, you should see your DPS in heroics increase dramatically. Try it out for a week or two and then please drop us a line to let us know how it's working out for you!
On a personal note, I find myself deeply in your debt, Shippleton. While doing that naked UP run I mentioned I finally got my Reins of the Blue Proto-Drake. I can only hope that this advice can repay the joy that another rare mount has brought me!
You want to be a Hunter, eh? Well then you came to the right place. You start with science, then you add some Dwarven Stout, and round it off some elf bashing. The end result is massive DPS. Scattered Shots is the WoW.com column dedicated to helping you learn everything it takes to be a Hunter. Each week Scattered Shots will cover topics to help you Fix Your DPS, Choosing the Right Spec, Gear Selection, Macros and Pet Selection, Pet Specs and Management.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
niko Jan 20th 2010 1:07PM
great revitalization effort for PMP!
/goes back to leveling the hunter again
Cliff Jan 20th 2010 1:16PM
I also enjoyed the article, keep it going please.
One minor question: I thought that even if you maxxed out your hit, you still have a 1% chance to miss a mob of equal level. Is that incorrect?
Mognet T Jan 20th 2010 1:21PM
@Cliff
No, the innate 1% miss was removed at the beginning of Wrath, at the hit cap you will always hit your target.
SmokeTheBear Jan 20th 2010 1:24PM
@Cliff
Yes, that's incorrect. They removed the base 1% chance to miss a couple years ago.
danglesthebear Jan 20th 2010 1:26PM
@cliff-
Once you get the hit cap for that particular lvl, you cannot miss. like he said, heroic hit "cap" is 6%, raids is 8%, and i believe pvp cap is 5%. bear in mind that this is all for melee, caster classes are different .
Kilseker Jan 20th 2010 4:30PM
@danglesthebear
Not sure about melee classes but at least for casters I know the raid hit cap is 17%.
jason.reagan Jan 20th 2010 9:24PM
Thats as long as the pvp target doesnt have increased defense. The higher a persons defense level the greater your miss chance against them
Mortiseraphim Jan 21st 2010 9:06AM
This makes me want to level my abandoned dwarf huntard i used to RAF my pally to 60 in a week. Very informative and it made me smile at just how helpful it was, like a big brother helping his sister with a scraped knee. Cheers to this and many more!
Jonnie Law Jan 20th 2010 1:15PM
This is a pretty sweet concept for a column. Though this might seem like commonsense for those of us that browse the interwebz in a constant quest to improve our game, you'd be surprised at how many players do not know some of the basics of their class and how easy it can be to improve drastically.
Kudos
bushkanaka86 Jan 20th 2010 2:12PM
Yeah, I like this idea. There are a couple of my raiders who I wish I could convince to submit their names....
Unless they started a spin-off collumn, "Pimp My Guildie". But they said we aren't allowed to submit other people, only ourselves.
Phil Jan 20th 2010 2:31PM
Instead of Pimp my Guildee I suggest the name "Help Me Help Them To Not Suck", that is a bit of a long name though. I have a few friends that would fall into this category.
Ezence Jan 21st 2010 11:26AM
The guy is a fircken genious, not only does he explain in great depth hunter 101, he also cracks jokes.
I want his children.
Alanid Jan 20th 2010 1:13PM
Very nice, this will come in very handy if I ever find the time to lvl my hunter.
Verit Jan 20th 2010 1:26PM
Interesting problem though - how many level 80's have we run into lately that aren't quite sure what to do at all? In the past leveling took longer, but I thought it was because blizzard wanted us to experiment with what made stuff die fast (you know - how to play the class).
I tanked a heroic OK run on my druid alt last night with a hunter with really really nice gear who used volley on every single pull - even bosses and he had sub 1k dps. I'm convinced a good chunk of DPS is rotation alone.
Rhabella Jan 20th 2010 1:43PM
LOL, thank you for not reminding me I’m not alone in this world (of warcraft). My problem is I have a buddy who I have known since my very first toons days back in Redridge. He’s a great guy and is fun to talk to and be around, but he has no desire to raid (which is fine by me). I have tried to get him into the new LFD system where I cue up as a tank because I know with 40K unbuffed prior to the luck of the draw there isn’t a single person who is going to try and kick me and I know I can carry my friends dead weight in DPS since I’m easily doing about 2500 on trash.
I have a question for you, or the readers or writers…I have sent this friend to several sites (/wave brigwynn.com) and he still is just now cracking 1200 DPS on single target boss fights and he has the crafted ToC chest and bracers and now the 2 piece bonus from T9. Short of actually playing him, I have no idea what else I can do to help him become a better player. What do you do when you just can’t get through to a friend and you really want them to be better?
This guy isn’t stupid, he’s a bit older than the typical WoW demographic, is a city planner, and is well versed in various subjects. My crazy liberal butt can even tolerate his conservative views because we are able to discuss them like adults should. I can’t, for the life of me, understand the rotation roadblock he has.
bob Jan 20th 2010 1:44PM
The problem there is the difference between solo leveling and running a heroic at 80. As was pointed out in the article, these two play styles are often drastically different, employing separate talent specs and tactics. Even if you know what hit is you don't worry about it leveling, but it is the first thing you need to sort out to be effective in heroics. Your class trainer will happily sell you new spell ranks but no one will ever mention why hit is important.
Excellent work pointing out how the play style and talents transition from leveling to dungeons. Could probably get a whole column out of it for each class.
kabshiel Jan 20th 2010 2:00PM
I'd argue that for non-tanks, gear is far and away the least important thing in improving your performance. Knowing how to play your class and knowing the fights are really what counts. Gear is a distant third.
Ata Jan 20th 2010 3:22PM
I -know- that rotation is a big part of it. I can regularly out do hunters in better gear than me, and Im pretty positive that it's because of my rotation. It's not always by huge numbers, but I tend to stay on top of the hunters in my guild with only our mage out doing me, and there are several pieces of gear I have that I badly want to replace.
Dere Jan 20th 2010 5:05PM
@Rhabella - have your bud go to a training dummy and watch what he does. Also look at his hit rating epic gear does not = hit cap always. Look at his pet and make sure that it's a wolf for heroics no matter what he wants that little extra goes along ways when you have OP people blowing through mobs. Wouldn't hurt to look at the glyphs he has on, and make sure his spec is good. People can get to sucked into IMba type builds and not really pay attention to how they play. If he thinks his pet should do all the dps for him then he is wrong BM is sub par to the other builds but is by no means a bad build to go with.
If he is a marksman hunter he needs to use those long cool downs on bosses to keep that dps up rapid fire until it's over then pop readiness and pop rapid fire again if the boss is not dead by then you should be okay riding the dps you already built up. Keep that sting up and use chimera shot - aimed shot whenever you can.
Wellsee Jan 20th 2010 1:29PM
This was enjoyable to read for this still-leveling hunter. I like how it takes material from a bunch of other articles and puts the advice to use all at once.