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1-20-2010 @ 3:12PM
Still no drama? Fail!
1-20-2010 @ 3:28PM
You don't consider it dramatic when a man breaks his neck and his friends try and help him? What plays have YOU been reading?
1-20-2010 @ 3:31PM
Psh, broken necks are old hat Rossi. I broke my neck like 3 times last week. I'll let you know if someone takes some gems from my guild bank, though.
1-20-2010 @ 3:36PM
It'd be drama if his friends didn't help him (not that i hope such a thing comes to pass). On a side note, are you trying to calm the cries to bring back the drama by putting a sad story on top to make people feel bad for complaining in the comments?
1-20-2010 @ 3:38PM
It's not "drama" unless there is 75% bitching and 25% moaning. Maybe a dash of QQ.You know, the sort of things gossip whores care about.I guess most people prefer the WoW tabloids...
1-20-2010 @ 5:34PM
"On a side note, are you trying to calm the cries to bring back the drama by putting a sad story on top to make people feel bad for complaining in the comments?"Well, I'm not involved in the production of this article in any way. But if I were, I doubt I'd bank on comment trolls feeling shame or common decency.
1-20-2010 @ 5:45PM
Oh snap, Rossi! :D
1-20-2010 @ 7:35PM
@Matthew RossiSo are you saying the only people that are asking to see the drama section back are "comment trolls"?
1-20-2010 @ 7:46PM
While we acknowledge that there is a segment of our community that wants the drama back, that segment is not the majority of readers by far. In fact, it is a very small percent-of-a-percent of readers. 200 comments on an article (by about 80 people, I might add) does not represent anywhere near a majority opinion, or reason for us to change something back. Over time we'll track this article's hits and interest from around the site and other places on the internet, and if changes need to be made, changes will be made. We have found, however, that drama related articles do not produce as good of results as non-drama related articles do. I'm not going to go into exact numbers and other statistics, but we have clear evidence to support this -- and the entire management staff agrees on this.If you all want drama and like to read about it, you are more than welcome to go on the forums and elsewhere. But WoW.com will not the be purveyor of such articles anymore. Instead, we're going to focus on providing you with more investigate articles, community support tools, breaking news, and a wider variety of interesting columns. Drama articles are not on that list.Cheers,Adam HoliskyEditor, WoW.com
1-20-2010 @ 8:03PM
Cheers to Adam for putting it out there the way it is. While I will miss the drama, I do appreciate (as I'm sure most readers do) when people are willing to give a straight forward answer without any fluff or condescending overtones. On a much more serious note, I'm sure Haydn Clasby, his family and friends would appreciate any help that we as a community can offer him in this time of need.
1-20-2010 @ 8:21PM
Interesting, Adam...it seems this "very small percent-of-a-percent of readers" likes to vote too, which I'm sure you do look at. All the comments saying dropping the drama is good, gets shaded. I know most people don't comment, but many at least look at them right? I mean come on...how many people enjoy WoW enough to read WoW blogs AND care about people clearing Naxx/Ulduar/ToC?
1-20-2010 @ 8:31PM
Marco,It takes about 10 people to vote a comment down into obscurity. There are also situations where a single user can vote a comment down multiple times, making the system useless. I'm sorry, but the only real way to track our entire readership is by tracking the numbers and hard scientific facts. We've found that only a small percent-of-a-percent of reader actually comment, and we can't let their trends dictate overall site activity. If 0.003% to 0.01% of readers all leave the same comment and we act on that, we'd be unfair to the other 99.997% to 99.99% of readers who don't vote by leaving comments or "voting comments down", but instead vote with their eyes and links from around the web.~ AH
1-20-2010 @ 8:34PM
Well you might have had more comments Adam, if you hadn't locked the thread last week. And your snarky response here says far more about the direction wow.com has taken recently than anything else.
1-20-2010 @ 8:41PM
I don't believe I'm being snarky about this. And we locked the the previous post because people made physical threats against the staff and were getting very much out of line. And again, about 80 people left comments -- about 60 of those were in favor of drama. And those 60 people were commenting a lot and making a lot of noise. It's not a majority, I'm afraid.
1-20-2010 @ 8:58PM
I've been trying to reply to this THREE times over the last hour and a half. I wrote one very long thought out post, and one condensed version. But the ONLY post that actually sent me a confirmation e-mail was one that only said "Test." What gives?
1-21-2010 @ 2:12AM
"Interesting, Adam...it seems this "very small percent-of-a-percent of readers" likes to vote too, which I'm sure you do look at. All the comments saying dropping the drama is good, gets shaded."Mine was up voted. Self admittedly, I was being downright insulting too.Then again, I guess most of us are sadomasochists otherwise the lfg would be empty all the time. Yay, pugs.
1-21-2010 @ 4:11AM
I've tried 3 times to post my *entire* comment but for some reason it gets cut short. Sorry about the above, it makes very little sense without the rest of it.The gist was something along the lines of: Would more people be disappointed with reinstating the drama than would be happy to see its return?
1-21-2010 @ 4:29AM
Late responding, but anyway: "So are you saying the only people that are asking to see the drama section back are "comment trolls"?"Nope. I'm saying you are. Based on "On a side note, are you trying to calm the cries to bring back the drama by putting a sad story on top to make people feel bad for complaining in the comments?"You said that, and I found it outright accusatory and dismissive. It was an outright trollish thing to say.
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