Skip to Content
1-22-2010 @ 2:10PM
There's no real way to avoid trolls, they'll always stick around, but you just have to learn to ignore them and succeed without them affecting you; that's the hardest part for most people, ignoring them. I know I can't, I always get heated when someone insults my skill or says something that crosses the line. It's annoying that people find glee in doing things like this, and push the issue.
1-22-2010 @ 4:03PM
It be articles and comments such as these that be givin' us trolls a bad name, mon. As a troll, I am extremely offended that whenever one of our brothers steps even slightly out of line, the entire troll community is labeled as wrongdoers. Not every troll is intolerant. Not every troll likes to use these offensive terms liberally. We are treated worse than murlocs due to the actions of a select few.I'm a troll. I like being one. But it saddens me very much when I am refused an invite to a raid because "Oh, just last week some troll ran his mouth on the forums and he got banned." I'm tired of my opinions and beliefs being dismissed out of hand. I can tell you that every single one of my troll brothers takes offense when anyone says "Don't mind him, he's just a troll." Maybe we wouldn't be so prone to offensive bursts if you weren't so quick to judge us based on the color of our blue skin and the fact that we have fewer toes than you.What is wrong with you people? On the one hand you pretend to be offended by the usage of intolerant words such as "rape" and "gay." On the other hand, you project the same intolerance on us trolls. This article has even come up with a new racial slur for trolls. I'm now afraid of speaking up in [1. General] or [2. Trade] for fear of being labeled a "perp." This makes you all hypocrites. It is a disgrace and a sham that this kind of discrimination should exist in the World of Warcraft. I have had enough. It is about time that the rest of the World of Warcraft stopped judging us trolls for the actions of a small group of irresponsible individuals. One day, the rest of the troll community will realize this. Stay strong, my brothers! The revolution is coming. When that day arrives, we shall be delivered from our oppression.Until then, they'll see me trollin', they hatin'. Patrollin', they tryin' ta catch me raidin' dirty....
1-22-2010 @ 4:34PM
When I'm on my tank/healer druid, I just tell em', "Either clean up your act, or you can wait in the queue for 10-15 minutes for another tank." USUALLY that works, but sometimes (only once so far, to be honest) I've just had to drop group and start another random heroic.But what if you're all by yourself as a DPS? My worst pug experience came when I got randomly put into a Heroic Halls of Reflection group on my Warlock after waiting in the queue for 30 minutes:I got randomly assigned to be leader, but the tank launched into an in-depth typed explaination of the "alcove method" right off the bat, bouncing around to "show us" where we're supposed to stand (honestly, a simple "I'm using the alcove. Everyone know what to do?" would have sufficed).All fine and good, once she was done she just kinda stood there, so I ran out to go start the event, and was treated to this, "where the @#$% are you going lock", "get back over here idiot". I replied, simply, "I'm starting the event. Be nice."The mobs start coming, a Priest comes out, so I pop a skull on it and come unglued on it. Priest goes down, I mark the Mercenary with a skull..."wtf who is marking STOP [name] is on marks"I glance at the DK in question, and notice that he's in the same guild as our pallytank. OK, fine fine. I didn't say a word and I stopped marking.The next few pulls go by, the DK is not only marking, but he's also jumping the gun and putting skulls on other targets when a Priest is up, and beyond that, he's marking every single mob with a different symbol. No kill order on the marks was stated, either. So I continued to kill the Priests first, Mercs second, Mages third, ect.I also noticed that the DK is spending so much time marking, that he's hardly doing any damage. The mage, who is going all-out, is barely pulling 2k (at which point I noticed he's ALSO in their guild), and I'm leading the way with 4k DPS and a round 40% of the overall damage done, with the TANK in second.On the 3rd wave, the DK slaps a skull on a Mage, ignoring the Priest, leaving me as the only DPS trying to kill the priest. Dude to fears, knockbacks and healing, we barely get the 3rd wave down as the 4th is already heading our way (since they are on a timer in Heroic). Once again, he puts a skull on the Mage and ignores a Priest AND a Mercenary, and this time doesn't mark anything else at all. Finally out of patience, I switch the skull to the Priest.I proceed to get BITCHED OUT by the tank for changing the mark and attacking the wrong targets, and the other 2 started in saying that I'm a fail idiot lock who doesn't listen to instructions because I was told at the very beginning that the DK was on marking duty (this wasn't stated, however, until the tank bitched me out during the first wave). The mage also told me to "go play a real class" and to "stop qq", which baffled me. Really? Making fun of my class? Especially when I'm doing twice as much damage as you are?My response: "Gee, it would have been a lot simpler if you'd just said at the beginning 'Can you pass lead please me, [dk] and [mage] are gonna mark and such.' Rather than bitch me out when for all I knew this was a completely random pug group. It would also hope if your 'designated marker' was spending less time using every lucky charm in his repetoire and more time actually DPSing."All this was happening during the Falric fight and during the next 2 waves. When the tank started mocking me, asking me "how much longer on your dungeon cd lock?", I got pissed and stopped all DPS. They proceeded to get overwhelmed by the adds and we wiped. Yeah, I was a bit of a jerk to stop DPS and wipe the group (the healer was a pug too, it wasn't her fault).Then I said, with about 20 seconds left on my dungeon CD: "w/e. You guys are already kicking me despite the fact that I'm top in DPS by far because you're a bunch of elitist jerks. Hope you feel better about yourselves."The pug healer asked "Why are you guys fighting?" right as I got votekicked.So the unfortunate truth is that you can't ignore all trolls. Some of them are just out to make your life miserable and then ultimately make the whole ordeal a waste of your time by booting you before the end.
1-22-2010 @ 4:41PM
My only consolation is that I checked on their server shortly afterwards (about 5 or 10 minutes) and noticed that all three of them were in a different dungeon. Since I'm pretty sure you it's not possible to do the second half of the waves *and* the Lich King chase in under 10 minutes, I'm pretty sure that without my DPS they weren't able to keep up w/ the waves of adds.Served them right.
1-22-2010 @ 7:32PM
What makes this subject so divisive is the fact that it is subjective and situational. What is offensive to one person may just be fun and games to another. Some people are bothered by crude language, some are offended by insults to their choice of class or play-style, while someone else might be frustrated by being harassed by another player who outlevels/outgears them. Until all types of cyberbullying are addressed and curtailed, there will be no agreement on what is the proper way to behave.
1-22-2010 @ 10:27PM
@AdeanyI lol'd. Especially when I think of how many "troll revolutions" you have likely prevented or stopped in your adventures. Wow does really hate most trolls, you know?
1-23-2010 @ 6:09AM
There is a great mod called "ignoremore." It allows you ignore infinite amounts of players and also put notes by their names for why your ignoring them. Also, and this is the really awesome feature, it saves the list to all your alts. I've found once I got to around 400 people or so listed from my server, I've rarely had to see any ignorance in trade chat, or pug raids with anyone that was annoying. A couple of times I ignored everyone that put the "anal" thing and chuck norris jokes in chat. I've rarely seen one since.
1-23-2010 @ 10:06PM
@Vinnie: I think the point of Lisa's response to NotFunny is that there *is* a line beyond the personal comfort zone. On things like foul language, most people who don't like it just turn the language filter on or ignore the moron talking (I myself don't like foul language but as long as my filter is on I don't care). But some stuff can get GM action taken against a player, and for good reason. And that ISN'T a personal preference issue. Ignoring the fact that "hatespeak" is against TOS, some stuff (like rape or racism) is just straight up disturbing. There are no excuses for personal preference in those cases -- some junk is just wrong, period.For myself, I get really upset about rape references, even if it's a friend joking about a boss kill or PVP, because I had a friend hurt like that. Badly. Like, front of newspapers, can still Google it kind of bad. So I'll ask people to cut out rape references because they upset me so much. If they're jerks about it, I'll drop, report, and put whoever it was on ignore. Because some stuff just isn't something you joke about in public.So I guess my argument is... yeah, SOME things can be subjective. But the OP is concerned about the kind of cruel offensiveness you'd expect from sadists and sociopaths. And that stuff isn't subjective to anyone BUT the sociopath spouting it.
1-24-2010 @ 2:25AM
I hope I didn't come across like I was defending offensive terms or behavior. I was just making the point that the types of people that make these comments feel somehow justified in offending others because they were 'offended' at one time or another.
First time? A confirmation email will be sent to you after submitting.
Members enter your username and password.
Enter your AOL or AIM screenname and password.
Please keep your comments relevant to this blog entry. Email addresses are never displayed, but they are required to confirm your comments.
When you enter your name and email address, you'll be sent a link to confirm your comment, and a password. To leave another comment, just use that password.
To create a live link, simply type the URL (including http://) or email address and we will make it a live link for you. You can put up to 3 URLs in your comments. Line breaks and paragraphs are automatically converted — no need to use <p> or <br /> tags.