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1-22-2010 @ 2:16PM
I tend to be on the side of free speech... that being said, no one is forcing you to stay with that group or even play WoW if you're offended by the chat.I neither condone or particularly enjoy trollish chat but I think the problem is who decides what is offensive. I've meet some really nice people on WoW but some seem to take the slightest offense at any opportunity.I'll freely grant that I can be an insensitive jerk at times (read: male).. :D
1-22-2010 @ 2:41PM
Hmm yea I sort of agree with you, while the behavior is really poor, its not all that uncommon and its the type of thing anyone should just walk away from if they don't like it, or choose to ignore it. Ignoring the person as suggested is fine, its doing your dilligence to prevent future groupings. IMO making a ticket over this type of behavior is a waste of blizzard's already totally backed up time. They are overloaded with people's tickets from hacked accounts, so you'll just end up feeling diminished in your effort for justice when nothing gets done about it.
1-22-2010 @ 3:03PM
I agree, sort of.While I tend to stay away from the F-bomb, My friend and I were once in an OS PuG bak in the day nad he dropped the F-bomb in Raid chat. While the F-bomb was aimed towards the boss, the raid leader kicked him almost instantly.In my experience, some people take to much offence onto online commentary. One of my "rules" is to hardly ever take anythign serious on the internet. While WoW may different with its wide variaty of age groups this rule should still hold somewhat true.If you don't like the language, turn the language filter on. If you don't like the player, /ignore them.If you can't stand the slightest F-bomb or minor curse word (such as "ass" which is typically commonly used in olde style games) then you shouldn't be playing this game in my opinion.Just my 2 cents.
1-22-2010 @ 3:06PM
@scottPeople often think of WOW as the USA for some random reason. That they have the same rights in game as they do in America. Well here's a quick news flash- YOU DON'T. As soon as you agree to the terms of service that whole ''freedom of speech i can say whatever i @#% want to'' becomes obsolete. You are in the World of Warcraft in game people. Different rules, and guess what- YOU agreed to them. And signed a legal document saying you agreed to them. So, just play nice and try and not act like you can get away with anything under your virtual identity.
I forgot to add, that if someone is directly aiming their insults at YOU or someone else then yes, that is unacceptable and shouldn't be tolerated. But in terms maybe insulting the mobs in the game, that's a different story.
1-22-2010 @ 3:09PM
Protip:Anything involvong "rape" is offensive. Period.Protip #2:Writing a ticket is a very good thing. Maybe the GIFTer wont have the chance to offend someone who has expeerienced real trauma in their life.
1-22-2010 @ 3:12PM
Free speech works both ways. You have the right to say pretty much anything you want, and I have the right to tell you you're an asshat for saying it. For the millionth time, you're free to speak your mind without legal consequences. You are not free to speak your mind without social consequences. And that's something that doesn't even apply in a game where you've agreed to the Terms of Service, which have a paragraph quoted above that boils down to "don't be an asshat."Yes, you can walk away. I do, or better yet, I avoid PUGs altogether. But there's no oppression of free speech going on when someone turns to someone else and tells them they're making an idiot of themselves, or god forbid reports them for violating the rules of the game. People who can't be bothered to think of how their words affect others because they want to say something dumb and nothing's going to stop them are no different from that DPS DK in your random group that refuses to take off Frost Presence for no good reason other than that he likes it there. There's no need to pretty up disregard for others or a desire to offend by pretending it's a noble exercise of your right to free speech.
1-22-2010 @ 3:22PM
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1-22-2010 @ 5:49PM
Even as an issue of free speech under US (or Canadian, or EU, etc) law (which WoW isn't obviously, but let's just go with it) there are provisions for things like verbal harassment - you have freedom of expression with freedom of consequence. If your coworker told you to finish that report or they'd rape you, they'd be fired or arrested, so a PuG player that does similar things should be vote kicked (fired) or banned (arrested).I understand the appeal of offensive humor (hell, that's basically all South Park is and I like that show), but it's important to remember that offensive humor that someone doesn't find funny is just being offensive.
1-24-2010 @ 7:37AM
To condone a threat against a gender is not and never will be acceptable behavior in public or private. Women are in constant threat of these actions and if you have been or have met a victim of rape you would scrub that offensive word from your vocabulary. I am appalled that some of these comments are minimizing the context of this article.
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