Blizzard says no to skipping to the last boss
by Matthew Rossi 
Jan 24th 2010 at 4:00PM
I have to say, and keep in mind I'm one of the bitter sour curmudgeonly tanks who constantly gripes even when things are going well, but if you can't endure a 20 minute instance run to get 2 frost badges, you need to reconsider running random heroics. Even the longest heroic dungeon is hardly so huge an imposition that you can't get through it without asking for some kind of magical backdoor that summons the boss to you. We've seen changes to dungeons like Oculus to give players an incentive to run them or streamline them, going to some weird Thunderdome of boss summoning would be a step backwards in my opinion.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, News items, Wrath of the Lich King
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 8)
one of many Jan 24th 2010 4:06PM
who was the guy that asked this!? were they even serious? The point of instances is to go through a lot of mobs and get to the final boss not to get to the final boss instantaneously and get practically free badges.
one of many Jan 24th 2010 4:07PM
adding to my previos comment, can people be that lazy!?
Possum Jan 24th 2010 4:16PM
why bother with the bosses at all, why not just give us the two frost badges when we log on everyday ;)
Seriously though, are they sure the OP wasn't just trolling?
K Jan 24th 2010 4:18PM
Had an OK run where the tank insisted that we skip 2 bosses. There was a ~2 minute argument during which someone pulled something and in the next instant a mob promptly helped itself to a big ol' healer sandwich followed by a bigger pull and wipe.
Just kill what you have to kill, it's not like those emblems are going to bite you...
Gessilea Jan 24th 2010 4:22PM
I remember reading that on bluetracker and thinking that it definitely sounded like a troll. OMG heroics r so easy Bliz shud just mail us 2 frost a day LOL!
Qot Jan 24th 2010 4:42PM
@K
The second I saw the title, I knew H OK was going to be invoked. If you get randomed in there for two frost, nothing is worse than having to divert to the other two bosses. One has an annoying mushroom mechanic, the other is a "sit and wait for the add" fights. And a stream of mindless trash pulls to get to them.
I realize the name of the dungeon is "Old Kingdom", but it wasn't necessary for Blizzard to create a dungeon with the population of an actual kingdom. So much trash to get through...
brownyboi Jan 24th 2010 5:32PM
Hit OK yesterday doing the usual tank thing. Politely asked if the rest of the pug wanted to do all of the bosses.
They said "yes", I said "okay".
Cue sound of happy DPSers who weren't getting stiffed out of 3 extra badges by an impatient tank.
It doesn't hurt to be nice, y'know?
PeeWee Jan 24th 2010 5:34PM
Qot: Quit your QQ and be glad you don't get an updated BRD as your daily HC.
vocenoctum Jan 24th 2010 6:04PM
I think the simplest answer is that Heroic isn't Heroic enough.
They should offer Epic setting, giving epics throughout and more danger (like say, ToC or the ICC stuff) rather than a bunch of uberleets steamrolling through at record pace while complaining because the 2k dps warlock didn't beat the tanks dps of 3k...
Dazaras Jan 24th 2010 6:05PM
While allowing players to skip right to the end of an instance is indeed a terrible idea, Brownyboi, you can get more badges by skipping as many bosses as you can and jumping right into the next random. Personally, I would rather kill everything regardless of rewards, but it is an economically good idea to skip them.
Snuzzle Jan 24th 2010 7:47PM
@Qot
"So much trash" in OK? Really?
I have to laugh whenever I see comments like this, because I know these people never played in Vanilla, and probably not in BC if they think a dungeon like OK has an overlarge amount of trash.
You can even do OK in under twenty minutes, and yes that's ALL bosses, with a good group. Finishing a Vanilla dungeon in under an hour was an achievement that many thought to be unreachable (I remember the whining and crying when the 45-minute Baron run quest was implemented-- and they had to nerf it several times before people thought it to be regularly achievable with a PuG).
Sleutel Jan 24th 2010 8:51PM
Are you kidding? I'm surprised people aren't just asking for a button to push to get their two badges.
Rob Jan 24th 2010 8:55PM
I had similar issues with OK, i was the tank, I wanted to run for the other two bossses. I got kicked from the group. Okay, whatever. I got into a very nice HOL group and got my badges. Hope they liked their 10 min wait which they could have spent getting two extra badges.
I don't get people sometimes, i really don't.
Themock Jan 24th 2010 9:22PM
i am glad the bulk of readers agree. this is silly. at that point, might as well just give me a button. i will login daily and click the button. you give me badges, and i can haz epix.
unfortunately, i really like the optional bosses and the dungeon layout that lets things be a little interesting and full of choices, depending on your particular mood that day. i hope this doesn't lead to dungeons in cataclysm where everything is just powered through in a straight line to prevent skipping content.
Walynds Jan 24th 2010 9:28PM
a) 1200 DPS is fine for the old stuff however
b) @ fresh 80's You will actually gear up faster in the new ICC normals, where you get badges and decnet loot off every boss.
c) Rude tanks in my group will get booted if I'm on my warrior and Ill tank the bloody thing if neccacary.
d) Talk to low DPS players, one guy put on 500dps because a cocky but not rude tank said 'Your DPS is crap, try this with your rotation' Speed up the run for all
e) If you want a well leet group? Run with your guild or make a PUG the old way. Otherwise don't complain when a random Mechanic does something random.
Julie Jan 25th 2010 6:08AM
Why do we even need to kill the final boss? We all know he's going to die :) So just let us click a button "generate frost emblems" and put it on a 24-hour cooldown :)
Xenn Jan 25th 2010 7:25AM
When I saw this post I also thought OK. Every run I get into the tank insists (er, read just charges ahead with no words to the rest) into skipping the 2 bosses, since other dungeons are better emblem per minute played. Funny enough I play WoW to have fun in a game environment, not to streamline and be efficient - my RL job does that for me. I would like to find a party that time to time wants to do all bosses.
Psyc Jan 25th 2010 8:07AM
@snuzzle
Quote=Snuzzle "I have to laugh whenever I see comments like this, because I know these people never played in Vanilla, and probably not in BC if they think a dungeon like OK has an overlarge amount of trash."
I was just thinking this myself when i got down to your post.
And as for them saying there is an annoying mushroom mechanic, your group obviously isnt that well geared cos 4 of our well geared guildies took a very ungeared dps alt in there and killed him before we had to even use the 'shrooms
Azure Jan 25th 2010 2:19PM
I was heroic OK on my mage the other day and the tank only did the vampire boss and the final boss, he even skipped the "Elder" fight.
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