15 Minutes of Fame: Wasting no time gaming

David French is a busy guy. Take a glance over his bio: A graduate of Harvard Law School and David Lipscomb University, French serves as senior counsel and director of the university litigation project for a large non-profit legal organization. He is also a captain in the United States Army Reserve and recently returned from a year-long deployment to Iraq with the 2d Squadron, 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, where he earned a Bronze Star. The former president of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, he also taught at Cornell Law School and served as a partner in a large law firm. He is the author of four books and numerous op-eds. Regularly interviewed by both print and broadcast media, David has a guest on The O'Reilly Factor, ABC World News Tonight, The Fox Report with Shepard Smith, Special Report with Brit Hume, and Your World with Neil Cavuto, among others. He has been profiled in several magazines and appears regularly on dozens of radio programs, including National Public Radio. He is a married father of two.
There's one more thing that David French's bio doesn't mention: He's cleared the first wing of ICC-10 on two toons, ICC-25 on one and still found time to wipe for hours on Festergut. ("Good times.")
This is the story of how (and why) he does it all.
Main character Rickybobby
Guild Yield to my Skill
Server US Dethecus
15 Minutes of Fame: You're an outspoken advocate of gaming, both as a hobby for mature, married professionals like yourselves and for kids. Your voice clearly rings with personal experience. What do you think lies behind the misconception of gaming as a waste of time?
David French: Video games are phenomenally successful and adored, but often not by parents and spouses -- especially your upper middle class, highly educated parents and spouses, the kind who have their kids listening to Baby Mozart in the womb, send their children to pre-schools that require admissions tests and interviews and who take care that all aspects of their kids lives are "constructive" and educational. These are the kind of folks who look at a kid with a Nintendo DS like he's wearing a T-shirt that says, "I have bad parents." These are the kind of folks who say things like, "Thank goodness my kids aren't into video games." Regarding spouses, there's a perception sometime that if your husband or wife has a gaming hobby that's somehow less legitimate than other hobbies and that gaming time is "wasted time."
Do you think gaming can be a positive force for kids?Not only are video games "not bad"; they're actually good. Well, certain games are. They're more challenging, more interactive and more fun than virtually any other form of entertainment. The "problem" with them is that they are so enjoyable that they require actual parenting to maintain boundaries.
I think we often get into the mindset of "sports good, video games bad," which is entirely artificial. It's not either/or. And we've all seen incredible abuse of sports -- from the virtually maniacal zeal of the stereotypical "sports dad," to the absolute, culture-destroying milquetoast of "It doesn't matter if you win, or even if you played well; you got out there and held that bat, by golly" -- that makes me want to commit acts of violence. Yet a "No sports for you!" edict would seem strange to all of us, unless there was a demonstrated record of bad behavior.
How old are your children? Do they play WoW?
My kids are 9 and 11 and a bit too young for WoW. They ask me to play all the time, and I've let them run around the starter zones with a low level toon or two, but I promised them that they could start their MMO life this year with the release of Lego Universe.
My kids like video games, but they don't love them. Video gaming (specifically, the Lego series of games on Wii) has spurred my son's interest in Lego-model building, which is a huge amount of fun and now one of his primary hobbies. I also find that the interactive nature of modern gaming (which is far more advanced than the Pac-Man you remember) actually spurs creativity, rather than inhibits it.
What does your wife think about your gaming?
My wife doesn't game, but that doesn't mean she isn't sympathetic to the geek side of life. After all, she did dress up as Arwen for the opening night of Lord of the Rings: Return of the King. As for my gaming, we keep a sensible schedule and observe some basic rules, like no gaming when the kids are up except on one raid night per week and no gaming during The Office, 30 Rock and Survivor. So I mostly play later at night, and I always put her and the family first. But she's got her own interests (she's a writer and the full-time editor of SixSeeds.tv, so I often play while she writes.
Makes sense. So each to his own ... And your own, obviously, is gaming.
I note how much games have been and are a part of my life, that they've hardly kept me from professional success, and in fact as a hobby they've been very constructive. And here's where Iraq comes in.
You gamed from Iraq?When I got to our forward operating base, one of our first priorities was finding out a way to get a reliable connection with home. We had 1,000 men on our small base, with less than 10 telephones and a similar number of internet connections. As an officer, I always felt bad about spending too much time on the phone when so many of the young soldiers had less stable families back home and fewer resources. So a group of us pooled some money, found an old satellite dish for sale by some departing soldiers (the thing looked like a giant, rusted frying pan) and bought it for around a thousand dollars. After herculean efforts, we were able to position it on the roof of one of our barracks buildings, snake a cable down through a window, plug it into an Apple Airport Extreme wireless modem (shipped by a guy's wife) and set up a tiny wi-fi network from a shaky satellite connection.
I'll never forget the day I tested the WoW connection. It was quite late at night (probably 2 or 3 a.m. Iraq time). I had finished instant messaging my wife, and I clicked on the WoW icon on my desktop. I logged on, watched it go through the authentication process and ... there was my priest, Rickybobby, still there, about three months after I'd last logged on. I clicked "Enter World" and found myself standing on the AH bridge in Ironforge. My near-delirious joy was tempered by the fact that my latency was between 1700 (at best) and 14000 (at worst), but a starving man will eat scraps from a dumpster, so this was much better than nothing.
Within weeks, most of the other officers on our little network had made toons, and we'd level together in those precious moments of downtime. Guys would literally come in from missions, take off their gear, and log into Azeroth. Basically, our high-latency WoW was a mental vacation ... We'd talk about it at chow, plan our professions, and even occasionally stumble through an instance together. Most of us were melee classes so that we could auto-attack during lag, but we always had a good time. It helped keep us sane.
Camaraderie, friendship and a momentary escape from reality -- that's what Warcraft means to me.
So how did you get started playing WoW?I am an old-time Warcrafter, spending hour after frustrating, mediocre hour on battle.net during the old "Reign of Chaos" and "Frozen Throne" RTS days. When WoW came out, I was appalled that Blizzard would ruin the franchise with something like an MMO (I barely knew what that was). I tried it about a month after release, and the first night I couldn't figure out how to change the camera angle, so I ran around the Night Elf starter zone yelling at the screen because I just had a top-down view. I was such a noob that it took me to level 40 to realize that I could get rid of the starter gear, and I wondered why everyone LOLed at my toon. Heck, I didn't even know about talent points until level 30.
But now? I'm what you'd call an "intense casual raider." I read everything I can on EJ and WoW.com, I try to min-max and run end game content every week. I'm the priest officer in our guild (and a secondary rogue officer), and our guild is one of the better casual raiding guilds on our server. I'm no pro, but I've come a long way from the days of not even realizing there was an Auction House, almost dying on every single pull, and not knowing what anyone meant when they said, "Noob, I can't believe you equip gray items."
Tell us a little about how you fit WoW into your schedule. What are your work demands like?
My work demands are ridiculous. I run the Center for Academic Freedom for a large legal nonprofit, I'm an officer in the Army reserves, I write for National Review Online and Sixseeds.tv, I write books (a book about my deployment to Iraq is coming out next year), and I also dabble a bit in politics. This might sound strange, but having so many competing demands makes WoW even more essential. It gives me a much-needed mental break and a great outlet for stress.
My WoW friends couldn't care less what I do in real life, and we just have a good time hanging out on Vent and slaying Arthas's undead minions. And like any self-respecting raider, I log in every day. After all, the daily random's gotta get done! Emblems of Frost don't collect themselves!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
linkers746 Jan 26th 2010 5:07PM
This guy is now my hero.
^_^
i2hellfire Jan 27th 2010 9:53AM
he's an over-achiever damnit. *grumbles*...i can barely walk and chew gum at the same time, let alone serve in iraq, write books, and give legal council...
blah Jan 27th 2010 9:58AM
http://article.nationalreview.com/290452/dad-what-did-you-do-in-the-war/david-french
An article written by David French and why he signed up...it deters from WoW a little but still a good read
Vickitt Jan 26th 2010 5:09PM
Sir, I am in awe.
/Salute
Domin Jan 26th 2010 5:10PM
Now I feel like a loser for saying; "Sorry guys.. gotta leave the raid early, I have a paper due tomorrow."
ladygamertn Jan 26th 2010 6:45PM
You are taking steps to get to your future... I /salute YOU for doing what you need to do to get there! You are absolutely NOT a loser!!
Artificial Jan 26th 2010 8:14PM
"Loser" might be the wrong work, but I certainly do feel like a slacker. Just reading this guy's bio exhausts me. XD
Artificial Jan 26th 2010 8:16PM
Err, make that "wrong word". :p
DFitz Jan 26th 2010 5:10PM
If only there were more David French's in this world, maybe then WoW and other games would lose their (unfair) bad rap in public circles. Kudos to another interesting profile, and thanks DF for your continued service to the country.
Jierda Jan 26th 2010 5:11PM
^ This guy ^ = Champion.
jealouspirate Jan 26th 2010 5:13PM
He's been on the O'Reilly Factor?
My condolences.
Beatphreek Jan 26th 2010 5:28PM
Jealous Pirate said:
"He's been on the O'Reilly Factor? My condolences."
Yeah i kind of threw up in my mouth a little bit at that...
But they say there's no accounting for good taste and aside from the fact that he's probably got drastically different views than I do on certain things. However, can still greatly respect all that he's accomplished. I also agree with a lot of what he says about video gaming and the creativity it can help foster.
Man, that's a jam packed resume.
Vickitt Jan 26th 2010 6:01PM
Guys, this may blow your mind, but two things:
a) Not everyone in the US, WoW, or WoW.com shares your political viewpoints. Some of these people are even well-educated, with jam packed resumes and impressive achievements. Confessing your surprise at such things flags you as incredibly close minded.
b) People who are guests on political talk shows do not necessarily embrace the views of the hosts. Oftentimes, hosts identify articulate speakers for the opposite viewpoint, and if the speaker avoids pontificating, a very fruitful discussion can be enjoyed.
Pro-tip: keep politics off my one politics free site, please.
Nicholas Tam Jan 26th 2010 6:27PM
First of all, this was a fantastic interview and a good reminder of why 15 Minutes is my favourite feature on WoW.com. I think putting the spotlight on someone like Mr French sends a positive message to WoW players looking for a sense of work/life balance. It's not just that people with interesting lives play the game; it's also that people who play the game still live their lives (if the distinction is at all clear).
I don't so much mind that he's from the ideological right (which we can tell from his media appearances as well as his affiliation with the National Review) given that some of his initiatives, like freedom of speech on college campuses, have a clear libertarian foundation. But I do find the jab at educated upper middle-class families quite jarring and perhaps a little unfair. It is usually the families with a decent amount of wealth and expendable income that are able to invest in a Nintendo DS here, a game-capable computer there, and if they are also making efforts to instill in their children a love of literacy and curiosity (and Mozart!) I see that as a positive thing. And if we're talking about the parents who flush their incomes down the admissions-consultancy sink - trust me, they know how to spoil their kids. I simply don't think the kind of snobbery against video games that Mr French is talking about is peculiar to the class he thinks it is.
Byron Jan 26th 2010 10:36PM
It doesn't matter what your political leanings are as long as you're thoughtful and critical-minded about it, not dogmatic.
Neither side is always wrong or always right, but dogmatists and ideologues who are over-emotionally and egotistically invested in their beliefs too often fail at being rational.
Politics and government != pulling for your favorite sports team come hell or high water.
Moo Jan 26th 2010 5:15PM
Absolutely fantastic! Great guy, great profile. Nice work.
Puh Jan 26th 2010 5:20PM
Awesome.
It's cool to see a fellow Lipscomb alum being written about here on Wow-insider.
Go Bisons! (That's right...we're the LU Bisons....not Bison....hooray for grandfathered-in grammatically incorrect mascots!)
txcroadshow Jan 26th 2010 5:21PM
3rd ACR? Worked with them a few times. Good folks.
Linaa Jan 26th 2010 7:20PM
Give it up for that Cav, people!
Mr Shinra Jan 26th 2010 5:21PM
While hearing about how much this guy actually does at once has made me pause and think, Its also not all that surprising that many military recruits and officers play WoW, I think its a great escape from the pressures of warfare, even if you are stepping into a fantasy version of the same thing sometimes.
I know a guy in my guild who just came back from Iraq and my best friend is in the Marines, so its cool to see an in-depth interview from someone else in service, someone who's obviously got a lot on his plate but has a level head about things too.
/Salute to Mr. French.