The Queue: Again and again

In this edition of The Queue, we answer a couple of new questions, and a couple of questions that we've answered approximately seventeen thousand times. Okay, not that many, but it certainly feels it. Hopefully between the new and the old there's something for everyone.
cactusham asked...
"Can Horde queue up for Stockades and Deadmines, and can Alliance queue up for Ragefire Chasm and Wailing Caverns?"
Assuming you're in the appropriate level range, yes! There's no threat of a bunch of Horde zoning out of the Stockades in the middle of Stormwind because the tool drops you back where you queued, not outside of the instance. It's a good opportunity to see content that normally would have been incredibly difficult to access.
Babaloo asked...
"How do you handle many whelps?"
Run directly into the middle of them and spam all of your AOEs while everyone else in your party also spams their AOEs and then get disconnected due to the obscene data flood.
That's how my raid's rogues seem to do it, anyway.
Montas asked...
"When Cataclysm hits, we (our 80s) won't be able to go back to the 'old world' becouse there will be "new old world." Will it be posible to help someone level up in old world? Will I be able to make the Loremaster achievement? Also, will chat channels be separated for old and new 'phase' of these zones?"
There is no old world and new old world. There's no phasing, there aren't multiple versions. When Cataclysm hits, the old world will change for absolutely everyone, even people who are leveling their very first character and only own vanilla WoW and none of the expansions. Azeroth as we know it now is going away permanently.
So yes, you can help someone level, because they'll be seeing all of the same things you will. We don't know what's going to happen with Loremaster yet, but it will most likely be updated to reflect the rest of the world. That, or we'll be given a new one.
Medros asked...
"If the Dragons are all children of the individual aspects, where do the proto drakes come from? A lot of them match in color to the various flights, but I would think that Alexstrasza wouldn't let her kids just be hanging out in Northrend, not after what happened at Grim Batol. Also, where in the evolution chain would they be? Higher than whelp, lower than a full Drake? Proto is defined as 'first, earliest, original' so would these be less evolved versions of the Dragons of Azeroth? If so, why didn't they evolve with Malygos, Alexstrasza, Neltharion, Ysera, and Nozdormu?"
The Proto-Drakes are what the dragons were before the Titans raised them up. They were more or less just beasts, like any other thing in Northrend. The Titans empowered many of them (not all of them), and they made the Aspects and the Dragons from them. Dragons and proto-drakes are two different things now, but at one time they were the same.
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 9)
Midas Feb 2nd 2010 5:19PM
cause they want people to go there, like ever.
Spriesty Feb 2nd 2010 5:20PM
The thought of Auberdine not being Auberdine....Arathi Highlands, Winterspring, etc. My home Darnassus... It's just very sad to me and I'm not sure I want to really see it. WotLK might have to be my last expansion.
Drecin Feb 2nd 2010 5:47PM
Even if it is your last expansion you will still be affected by the changes...Bottom line is the WoW of Yesteryear will be gone forever...if you truly dont want to see it gone than you will have to stop playing all together or just stick to the zones unaffected
Cephas Feb 2nd 2010 5:55PM
Well, you won't be affected by the changes if you quit playing the game, which is what I think the original post meant by "last expansion".
Drakkenfyre Feb 2nd 2010 5:20PM
There is a way to get out of the instances, and into the cities. Join a group, die, then run back, leave the group before you reenter, then enter, then leave. I believe it will put you outside of the instance. Of course, at the level you need to be to use the LFG tool to get into them, you will be a level 15 or so standing in the middle of an enemy city.
zweitblom Feb 2nd 2010 5:47PM
No it won't. I did that recently because there was a group I just couldn't get out of fast enough and leaving the instance still put me right back where I was when I had joined it.
Edge Feb 2nd 2010 7:14PM
No it is simpler but not as nice and not at the entrance. Join a group, in the instance die, then at the GY ask to be revived. You will revive at that Graveyard, and leave the group. Not an easy way to get around the hearthstone, but if your lucky or if your guildies will help cause you need to get somewhere asap (and you just used your hearthstone), you can queue for a specific dungeon and do this I believe. Of course not only do you have LFG queue disease, but also death disease.
Drakkenfyre Feb 2nd 2010 7:23PM
Of course you can res at the graveyard. The point was coming out of the middle of the instance in the city. And I think the word you are looking for is "debuff", not disease.
Edge Feb 2nd 2010 7:30PM
Yeah I was being lazy, debuff, diseases, whatevs. But coming out into the city...just not possible unless you started there or the GY is there.
Phil Feb 2nd 2010 5:21PM
My question for the Queue:
Do you guys ever want to go into a rage (or nerdrage if that's your thing) when you see some of the questions asked?
PvtDeth Feb 2nd 2010 5:37PM
Uhh... See my reply above...
Phil Feb 2nd 2010 5:53PM
You do realize I posted this before you posted your reply right?
Deathknighty Feb 2nd 2010 5:22PM
Why is it always SEVENTEEN thousand times? I know this sounds wierd but it seems the role of large random number is always filled by seventeen.
Maybe I'l write a book about it someday. I just know it'll be a best seller. :P
Amado Feb 2nd 2010 5:30PM
it'll sell seventeen million copies
Cyrus Feb 2nd 2010 5:31PM
Always 37, I would have said. And I would say that is always picked because it's prime and both of its digits are also prime, so it looks extra random.
Alex Ziebart Feb 2nd 2010 5:32PM
I can't speak for the rest of the world, but you can blame Steven Brust for my use of the number 17.
adyuaa Feb 2nd 2010 5:38PM
Do you find your perception of randomness changed by the authenticator? I assume it's random, and yet I almost never get a number without repeating digits or other patterns. So I calculated the probability of having no repeats - it's about 15%. And that doesn't even cover sequences (I actually got 123457 once).
PvtDeth Feb 2nd 2010 5:38PM
Always fourteen for me. 14, 14 million, 14 thousand. Also nine.
Deathknighty Feb 2nd 2010 5:42PM
Yeah, I'd expect being a prime number might have something to do with it. But 1 isn't a prime number. :O. ;)
jbodar Feb 2nd 2010 6:07PM
I blame Kip Winger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlN3oEjMpUQ